Renaissance:Status Meetings:2009-11-30
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Meeting Details
- 2009-11-30, 4:00 PM CET
- IRC details: irc.freenode.net #ux.openoffice.org
Contents
In Attendance
- Christoph Noack (IRC: christoph_n)
- Andreas Bartel (IRC: Andreas_SunOOoUX)
- Elizabeth Matthis (IRC: Lizm)
- Frank Loehmann (IRC: frankl)
- Christoph Lukasiak (IRC: clu_sun)
- dave_largo
Agenda
- Round Table
Action Items
Comments on Action Items
Round Table
- see IRC log
IRC Log
<Andreas_SunOOoUX> hello <clu_sun> huhu <Andreas_SunOOoUX> ok, let's start <Andreas_SunOOoUX> there was an action item for me <Andreas_SunOOoUX> it's done now. you can find the results at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:Impress <Andreas_SunOOoUX> there are the current issues and topics for project Renaissance <Andreas_SunOOoUX> issues in terms of specific tasks for upcoming releases * christoph_n (n=christop@HSI-KBW-095-208-215-154.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) hat #ux.openoffice.org betreten <Andreas_SunOOoUX> hi christoph <FrankL> Hi Christoph! <christoph_n> Hi everyone! (I'm just starting my PC, so it might take another two minutes until I' ready...) <christoph_n> (I' -> I'm) <FrankL> I have started to work on issue 107211 last week. <IZBot> Presentation ENHANCEMENT NEW P3 Improve navigation in slide pane, slide view and slide sorter view. http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107211 <Andreas_SunOOoUX> issue 107213 <IZBot> Presentation ENHANCEMENT NEW P3 Improve slide layouts and their handling. http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107213 <Andreas_SunOOoUX> issue 107215 <IZBot> Presentation ENHANCEMENT NEW P3 Improve visual design of all different slide states in slide pane, slide sorter & task pane. http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=107215 <Andreas_SunOOoUX> these are the things we focus on * CTCP VERSION von freenode-connect empfangen * CTCP VERSION von freenode-connect empfangen <christoph_n> Sorry for the question, do the three issues cover all planned improvements for Impress 3.3? <Andreas_SunOOoUX> not all, they include all relevant for the current work <lizm> Is that wiki page also the place where minutes from meetings with the Impress dev will be? <Andreas_SunOOoUX> no <Andreas_SunOOoUX> the wiki is about tracking issues <lizm> ok. <lizm> Then the links to relevant documentation/specs will be in the issues themselves? <Andreas_SunOOoUX> sort of. the links to the specs will be on the wiki <Andreas_SunOOoUX> the same wiki page of course <lizm> sounds good <christoph_n> Yep, that's cool to be visible (and of course to ease feedback) :-) <Andreas_SunOOoUX> no worries, they'll be available soon <christoph_n> By the way, this is the official list what will be done? Because sometimes people ask what will be the next step for Ren. <FrankL> I hope to have my first spec. out there next week. <Andreas_SunOOoUX> what do you mean by this list? <Andreas_SunOOoUX> wiki page? <lizm> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:Impress ? <Andreas_SunOOoUX> exactly <christoph_n> The changes addressed for 3.2. We got several questions after the Ren presentation ... oh ... Liz already solved that. Thanks! <Andreas_SunOOoUX> for now this is the overview of implementation work within project renaissance <Andreas_SunOOoUX> with issues, CWSs etc <Andreas_SunOOoUX> ... as soon as CWSs are available <FrankL> 3.2? <FrankL> -> 3.3 :-) <christoph_n> Aehm 3.3. Of course. <lizm> Speaking of 3.3, I've begun work on a blog to post soon to draw attention to Renaissance stuff in 3.3. <lizm> Some of you already know about my blog draft, and thx for the feedback, Christoph_n. ;-) <Andreas_SunOOoUX> by the way, there will not be a garantee that everything will be finished by the next release date. we'll try to focus of quality and if things take more time to be done well, so be ot <Andreas_SunOOoUX> it <lizm> Quality over quantity. I'm all for it! <christoph_n> Yep, but that something we can communicate. It's something really new ;-) <lizm> ha ha <FrankL> FYI: We will have our monthly status update presentation for December on Thursday this week. <Andreas_SunOOoUX> right. <FrankL> better the one for November held in December ;-) <christoph_n> Is there anything we can provide? Does it also summarize the OOoCon? <Andreas_SunOOoUX> not really about OOo con <Andreas_SunOOoUX> more about what's next <Andreas_SunOOoUX> the details <christoph_n> Okay. <Andreas_SunOOoUX> ... I got nothing to add for today. roundtable? <christoph_n> Yep. <FrankL> OK <lizm> so there won't be another status pres at end of Dec? It is Xmas and all. * cabrow (n=cabrow@pptp-212-201-79-220.pptp.stw-bonn.de) hat #ux.openoffice.org betreten * cabrow (n=cabrow@pptp-212-201-79-220.pptp.stw-bonn.de) hat #ux.openoffice.org verlassen <lizm> or will there be another presentation despite the holiday/possible vacations? <lizm> or will this be decided closer to the date? <Andreas_SunOOoUX> oooh holidays. from next week on, I am on vacation since I had to many "leftovers" <christoph_n> Let me be your "leftover" sink ;-) <Andreas_SunOOoUX> :-) <FrankL> That's why we will restart in January with the status presentations for 2010 <lizm> good to know! I'll be away one day here and there, then completely between 24 and Jan 1 <lizm> Excellent. <FrankL> Me too. I am on vacation from 18.12.09 - 04.01.10. <FrankL> I have talked to Frank Mau regarding how we want to extend the Usage Feedback Program and tooling. <christoph_n> Andreas? I didn't want to ask before, but is there a chance to discuss some Impress topics with the IBM folk? <Andreas_SunOOoUX> sure. what do you have in mind? <christoph_n> wrt holidays: I request you to do some pictures ;-) <Andreas_SunOOoUX> I planned, at leat I think so, to inform Li Ma about the wiki page <christoph_n> Just to ask them whether there is a chance to cooperate. Basically, they may also have some good ideas. Since the issues and discriptions are public, this would be a great chance. <Andreas_SunOOoUX> but I am not sure if I did that <christoph_n> Mmh, if you CCed me - I missed that mail (if it has been sent today) <Andreas_SunOOoUX> I guess Li Ma is a great candidate <Andreas_SunOOoUX> I guess I forgot to send it out on Friday <christoph_n> Cool. <Andreas_SunOOoUX> however, wiki page is now online, they can have a look <christoph_n> So you will send the mail to give them some clues? <lizm> maybe they are avid IRC minutes readers ;-) <Andreas_SunOOoUX> i can do that <christoph_n> Thank you. By the way... <christoph_n> ... I just had a short look. We missed to finish the discussion concerning lizm's blog post. <christoph_n> I like it, so may we "ship it"? <lizm> I will finish it tomorrow and post it, including a few of your points and the links, etc. BTW clu_sun and christoph_n, when will you be on vacation? (if at all) <christoph_n> Lizm, you just want to know when we will be fully available for OpenOffice.org? ;-) <christoph_n> From Dezember 15th to January 10th. We currently have some "planned" vacation in our company. <Andreas_SunOOoUX> the mail to li ma is send out <christoph_n> I currently plan my trips to visit my family. Most probably, I will be near Hamburg starting January 4/5. <lizm> oooh that means we can lure you into the Sun office ;-) <FrankL> and can have a steak or two ;-) <Andreas_SunOOoUX> that's what I was hopping for ;-) <christoph_n> Do I look that simple? ;-) ;-) <christoph_n> Hopping? On me? <Andreas_SunOOoUX> no, on the steak :-) <FrankL> Just want to finish the User Feedback thing... Frank Mau will setup a meeting with a colleague so that we can discuss things how to extend and simplify the data/tooling. Please let me know if you have made any observations while working with the User Feedback data or tooling that should be changed or extended to make things easier. <FrankL> Anything else for today? <christoph_n> Mmh, would it make sense to ask some "fresh" guys (using the tracking, like QA) to ask then whether there is something which makes it hard to start? <FrankL> I think currently the learning curve is a wall :-) <christoph_n> Red bricks? <FrankL> Let me see... <FrankL> ...yes! <christoph_n> Okay. Then it might be useful to build a Great Wall to separate users from developers :-) <christoph_n> (Kidding.) <lizm> no walls please. The world has enough of them. I like doors. (not windows ;-) ) <christoph_n> We obey your orders. :-) <christoph_n> That all (from my side)... <FrankL> I also want to make progress regarding the public available tooling for OOo. <lizm> anyway, I am glad Frank is continually working with dev on improving the feedback tooling. Thx Frank! The User Feedback data is invaluable. <FrankL> Thats (w)all from side for today. <lizm> Can I ask when our last meetin on IRC will be? <lizm> Due to vac and such it looks like next week will take place. <FrankL> for this year? <lizm> yes <FrankL> Next two weeks I think. <lizm> will 14th be the last one? <lizm> Good, then we'll not have the IRC meetin on Dec 21 or 28 and resume in Jan <FrankL> Yes. <christoph_n> Thank you. <lizm> Wonderful. then there is nothing more from me today. <lizm> Good bye all. It was a pleasure as usual. <FrankL> Bye! <Andreas_SunOOoUX> bye bye <christoph_n> Bye bye.
