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[15:03] <ericb2> \O/ can we start the meeting ? >_O<

[15:03] <paveljanik> ;-)

[15:03] <paveljanik> yes

[15:03] <ericb2> 1. Welcome new devs joining Mac OS X port

[15:04] <ericb2> New devs around ?

[15:04] <ericb2> new contributors ?

[15:05] <ericb2> rbircher: ?

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[15:08] <spiral> helo

[15:09] <ericb2> spiral: hello

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[15:10] <shaunmcdonald> spiral: are you a new dev?

[15:11] <shaunmcdonald> spiral: or contributor?

[15:11] <spiral> shaunmcdonald: let's say a contributor, tester & so on... But 'm learning cocoa right now, & if I find ways to help, I'll try to

[15:11] <shaunmcdonald> spiral: 8)

[15:12] <shaunmcdonald> spiral: where are you from?

[15:12] <spiral> shaunmcdonald: I'm french.

[15:13] <shaunmcdonald> spiral: there are quite a few other french folk

[15:13] <ismael_> spiral: like ericb2 or me ;-)

[15:13] <spiral> :-)

[15:16] <ericb2> spiral: is it your job ?

[15:16] <ericb2> (developer)

[15:17] <spiral> ericb2: yeah... hmm, in fact, it's said "Ingnieur d'tudes" on my contract

[15:17] <paveljanik> next point?

[15:17] <ericb2> spiral: ok, be welcome on Mac port, and don't hesitate to ask here if you have problems and /or other questions :-)

[15:18] <jsi_sun> paveljanik: your family is waiting, am I right? ;-)

[15:18] <paveljanik> jsi_sun: no, but 17 minutes per point is a bit too much according to my habbits ;-)

[15:18] <paveljanik> 8)

[15:18] <jsi_sun> paveljanik: ok, agree +1

[15:19] <ericb2> paveljanik: new comers are enough important

[15:19] <ericb2> paveljanik: imho

[15:19] <jsi_sun> spiral: Do you also have "spiral" as IssuTracker account @ooo?

[15:20] <ericb2> Next point ?

[15:20] <spiral> jsi_sun: hmmm, I already submitted some things on a "bugzilla" for OOO, but I don't know if this is the same account

[15:20] <jsi_sun> spiral: yes

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[15:20] <ericb2> spiral: better use only one account ;)

[15:20] <jsi_sun> spiral: Bugzilla = IssueTracker

[15:20] <ericb2> spiral: more easy for a lot of reasons

[15:21] <ericb2> 2. Latest Cocoa news ( aquavcl03 news )

[15:21] <ericb2> ismael_ , hdu_hh ?

[15:21] <jsi_sun> spiral: Issue =! Bug -> IssueTracker

[15:21] <ismael_> It's Carbon for me, although i commited to aquavcl03:

[15:21] <spiral> jsi_sun: alright, I'll just have to retrieve my ids... It's been quite a long time ;-)

[15:21] <hdu_hh> ericb2: hi

[15:22] <ismael_> i added support for native progress bar in the splash screen

[15:22] <ismael_> i also made a patch to have native nodes in listviews, and once reviewed i'll commit it

[15:23] <ismael_> see

[15:23] <ismael_> hdu_hh: can you review them as i updated them not to use svdata

[15:23] <ericb2> ismael_: I'd suggest you to no invest too much in Carbon things now

[15:23] <hdu_hh> ismael_: will do

[15:23] <ismael_> hdu_hh: it's here: http://lebasket.free.fr/OOo/21_08_07/

[15:24] <ismael_> ericb2: in fact i'm finishing things i started, to commit them and stuff on listwiews is part of it

[15:25] <ericb2> ismael_: as a good start, I suggest you to help Damien with Cocoa cursors. Should compile now

[15:25] <ismael_> i also worked to replace the old non native checkboxes and radio buttons by the native ones in listviews

[15:25] <ismael_> i replaced these ones

[15:26] <ismael_> and the last thing i did is to make native the headbar of most of the listviews

[15:26] <ismael_> i replaced that by http://lebasket.free.fr/OOo/08_08_07/ listHeaderAqua2.png

[15:27] <paveljanik> ismael_: great work!

[15:27] <ismael_> i'll improve the patches and commit them as soon as possible

[15:28] <ismael_> moreover native radio buttons and check boxes will profit also to other platforms like windows or linux

[15:28] <ismael_> paveljanik: thanks

[15:28] <jsi_sun> ismael_: nice; the last image has not a selection like the VCL one. Is that just a screenshot issue or is there no selection by default?

[15:29] <ismael_> jsi_sun: that's because in the screenshot, i didn't selected an item so no selected item

[15:29] <jsi_sun> ismael_: you made some great changes... to get a more Aqua like build! Thx!

[15:29] <jsi_sun> ismael_: ok

[15:29] <ericb2> ismael_: thank you very much for your work. If I read correctly the survey, the Google SoC is officially finished or close, isn't it ?

[15:29] <ismael_> jsi_sun: i just modified the headbar, items are not changed

[15:29] <jsi_sun> ismael_: ok, good to know

[15:30] <ismael_> ericb2: yes the google SOC finishes between 20 and 31 of August

[15:30] * jsi_sun has to be in a real-time meeting; will be back in 1/2hrs

[15:30] * jsi_sun is away: chrrr.......

[15:31] <ericb2> ismael_: I suggest you to use bonsai, and extract all the commits you did, and provide a .tar.gz or something as archive

[15:31] <ismael_> ericb2: i saved almost all the patches i commited, so it will be easy to upload code on code.google.com

[15:32] shaunmcdonald sky spiral

[15:32] <ericb2> ismael_: great. good work :)

[15:32] <ericb2> Last news ( both Carbon and Cocoa) : aquaremovescripts cws RfQA : main.applescript, powtinstall.applescript and osacompile part have been removed. Should solve the remote build issue with window server.

[15:32] <cloph> (removed = disabled/skipped for aqua builds)

[15:33] <ericb2> the agenda was too big for today, and I'll prepare something new before OOoCon

[15:33] <ericb2> cloph: thank you

[15:34] <paveljanik> ericb2: so there is no fondu in X11 anymore?

[15:34] <paveljanik> or?

[15:34] <paveljanik> or it touches only aqua?

[15:34] <ericb2> paveljanik: fondu is still in X11

[15:34] <cloph> ..and /me will reintroduce the need for osacompile again for building languagepacks... (unless somebody knows how to copy (from the commandline) a script saved as app so that it still works

[15:35] <cloph> )

[15:35] <spiral> cloph: have you tried using "ditto" for this kind of copy ?

[15:35] <ericb2> cloph: maybe add a text file as .scpt will avoid the need of osacompile

[15:35] <ericb2> cloph: ask yvan barthelemy, has knows the tip

[15:35] <spiral> cloph: ditto is able to copy resource forks & so on, so this might work

[15:35] <ericb2> s/has/he/

[15:36] <mav_eric> yes ditto is a good idea.

[15:36] <cloph> spiral: thanks - will try with that (unless somebody objects to putting a "binary" script into OOo sources, then this would be futile anyway :-))

[15:37] <paveljanik> ah, aquaremovescripts only adds two ifdefs, OK.

[15:38] <ericb2> Next point ?

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[15:39] <ericb2> 3) Objective-C++ : .mm vs .cxx

[15:40] <cloph> spiral: Thanks, ditto works :-)

[15:40] <spiral> cloph: you're welcome :-)