ReleaseStatus Minutes 2008-10-27 IRC log

(14:59:34) ja_: Moin
(14:59:35) UweL [n=chatzill@nat/sun/x-f12eb267bbc7076e] hat den Raum betreten.
(15:00:44) rtimm [n=Ruediger@sd-socks-197.staroffice.de] hat den Raum betreten.
(15:00:56) mdamboldt [n=md97092@sd-socks-197.staroffice.de] hat den Raum betreten.
(15:01:50) _Nesshof_: moin
(15:01:56) calc: hi
(15:02:18) _Nesshof_: 2.4.2 issue status
(15:02:43) paveljanik: Moin
(15:02:46) _Nesshof_: there was one issue raised for MacOS #95432
(15:02:52) IZBot: porting DEFECT NEW P1 MacOSX : build fails at instsetoo_native : "File not found: osxbundle.zip" http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=95432
(15:03:26) _Nesshof_: are we aware of more issues for 2.4.2 release
(15:03:27) _Nesshof_: ?
(15:03:41) blauwal [n=jr93709@sd-socks-197.staroffice.de] hat den Raum betreten.
(15:04:05) ***_Nesshof_ would have the hope that 95432 can be fixed in the sources only
(15:04:18) _rene_: no, and I do not think this issue should block the release. just fix it, re-gen the source and release tomorrow :)
(15:05:01) _rene_: but /me wouldn't mind if it wasn't fixed at all, but how can that happen if only bugfixes are allowed in 2.4.2? It sounds like 2.4.1 built and 2.4.2 not?
(15:05:34) Fridrich: good question
(15:05:34) ***_Nesshof_ also has no idea
(15:06:24) paveljanik: RE is not building, RE is preparing binaries... And if this is not reproducible 100%, new rebuild prepares the binaries.
(15:06:49) paveljanik: and they are reused.
(15:08:10) ***_Nesshof_ also doesn't understand pavel
(15:08:16) _rene_: ah the uusal "unclean builds" problem
(15:08:30) _rene_: no comment...
(15:08:52) _Nesshof_: then we should remove that issue from the blocker list ?
(15:08:53) _rene_: paveljanik: but that didn't explain why it regressed in 2.4.2 now?
(15:09:10) _rene_: paveljanik: if it was a general problem it should have happened with 2.4.1 already, no?
(15:09:26) paveljanik: _rene_: I have seen it myself as well...
(15:09:26) _rene_: paveljanik: no *bugfix* should have changes something essential like this
(15:09:41) paveljanik: yes, this is old issues IIUIC
(15:10:50) _Nesshof_: ok, all seem fine to remove it
(15:12:28) _Nesshof_: #91466 will also not be fixed in time for 2.4.2 but for a lter 2.4.x
(15:12:39) IZBot: Presentation DEFECT NEW P3 Bullets lost when loading in 2.4.1 http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=91466
(15:13:11) _Nesshof_: are we then ready to release 2.4.2 ?
(15:14:04) paveljanik: yes? ;-)
(15:14:10) ***_Nesshof_ takes the silence as yes
(15:14:42) Fridrich: _Nesshof_: never interprete silence, just shout that people wake up
(15:14:49) Fridrich: _Nesshof_: +1 btw
(15:15:40) rtimm: +1
(15:15:43) blauwal: +1
(15:15:51) _rene_: _Nesshof_: yes
(15:15:52) ja_: I have 11 GB left on regular mirror master. If a localization doesn't fit onto regular mirror then I'll upload it to extended
(15:15:58) ja_: +1
(15:16:02) mla: +1
(15:16:32) _rene_: (though I probably never will ship 2.4.x, x>1 in Debian)
(15:17:13) _Nesshof_: 3.0.1 issues then: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/showdependencytree.cgi?id=93339
(15:17:42) _Nesshof_: but I have the impression that there are already a lot more issue with generic target 3.0.1
(15:17:47) ja_: For a release we have to wait for the distribution of the binaries through the mirror network so I doubt we will have the release tomorrow
(15:18:12) Fridrich: so, what is the official date?
(15:18:37) _Nesshof_: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/buglist.cgi?Submit+query=Submit+query&issue_type=DEFECT&issue_type=ENHANCEMENT&issue_type=FEATURE&issue_type=PATCH&issue_status=UNCONFIRMED&issue_status=NEW&issue_status=STARTED&issue_status=REOPENED&issue_status=RESOLVED&target_milestone=OOo+3.0.1&email1=&emailtype1=exact&emailassigned_to1=1&email2=&emailtype2=exact&emailreporter2=1&issueidtype=include&issue_id=&changedin=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto
(15:19:15) _rene_: ja_: wtf?
(15:19:22) _rene_: ja_: and because you didn
(15:19:36) _rene_: ja_: and because you didn't do that on the we yet we have to wait? no way.
(15:20:38) _rene_: ja_: and we have 24h time to tomorrow 15:290h. shouldn't that be enough for the mirrors to have synced?
(15:20:51) _rene_: (and after all, I don't except many people to run after 2.4.2)
(15:22:09) ja_: _rene_: If I copy the files from ../extended/2.4.2rc1 to stable then the distribution of the binaries need at least 24 hours to distribute worldwide. Afterwards I have to add Bouncer links and I have to wait until Bouncer finds the files on the mirrors.
(15:22:40) Fridrich: so what is the official annoucement date?
(15:22:51) Fridrich: before Beijing or after?
(15:23:40) _Nesshof_: Fridrich: is there any reason no to release before beijing ?
(15:23:45) _rene_: ja_: then do it. now+24hs is 15:23 tomorrow
(15:24:27) _rene_: release date is release date. it's not as if it was unknown., and it's not as it was not probable that we'd ignore that mac os x issue ;(
(15:24:33) _rene_: s/(/)/
(15:24:52) Fridrich: _Nesshof_: ah, you Preussen should start to understand the jokes from the south :)
(15:25:32) ja_: _rene_: + an unknown count of hours before the Sentry finds the files on the mirrors
(15:26:07) MechtiIde hat den Raum verlassen (quit: "Verlassend").
(15:26:17) ja_: distribution to the Australian mirrors usually needs four days
(15:26:30) _rene_: then those are broken.
(15:26:42) _rene_: no mirroring should take 4 days. that's insane.
(15:26:45) Fridrich: kangaroos don't use mirrors, they just jump
(15:28:00) ja_: I'll try to prepare the files for a release for Wednesday morning Hamburg time.
(15:28:49) _rene_: ja_: exact time please.
(15:29:00) ja_: 11am
(15:29:08) _rene_: ja_: (if possible)
(15:29:32) rtimm: Fridrich: so much for Preussen versus beeings from the south ;-)
(15:29:44) _rene_: aha, and you believe that the people running for 2.4.2 will be so much that they can't wait for some more hours?
(15:29:55) Fridrich: rtimm: :)
(15:29:57) _rene_: I don't believe 2.4.2 will get that much request.
(15:31:38) _Nesshof_: ok, estimated release time Wednesday, 10am GMT
(15:32:26) ja_: I'll start copying the files to stable right after this meeting
(15:33:51) Fridrich: _Nesshof_: thank you :9
(15:36:54) ja_: anything else to discuss ? (RE duties ?)
(15:43:10) blauwal: RE duties: DEV300 (Me/Rüdiger) OOO300 (Oliver)
(15:44:21) _Nesshof_: are we all fine with the 3.0.1 issue list ?
(15:50:11) IZBot hat den Raum verlassen (quit: Nick collision from services.).
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(15:52:36) ***_Nesshof_ takes the silence again as an agrrement
(15:52:45) paveljanik: ;-)
(15:53:06) _Nesshof_: are we finished for today ?
(15:53:22) ja_: yep
(15:53:32) _Nesshof_: I guess the meeting next monday will be small, as some of us are traveling to beijing
(15:53:59) _rene_: so will we have one at all?
(15:54:10) _rene_: I don't think it makes sense, tbh :).
(15:54:14) _Nesshof_: I will not be available
(15:54:32) _Nesshof_: so all are fine to cancel next weeks meeting ?
(15:54:36) ***_rene_ neither, my train to the airport leaves at exactly 15:00 ;-)
(15:54:42) calc: i'll br in beijing too, yea cancel :)
(15:54:44) ja_: I'd like to ask to skip it.
(15:55:11) mla: +1 for skipping
(15:55:26) calc: my flight leaves at 6:30am sunday (UTC-0600)
(15:55:37) _rene_: .oO ( of course, we could do one in RL on Tuesday, but.. ;) )
(15:55:48) _Nesshof_: ok, I will also not here on Nov. 10th
(15:56:12) ja_: 2.4.2 has been uploaded to stable and now it needs some time to distribute.
(15:57:56) ja_: I expect this as well
(15:59:31) rtimm: +1 for skipping next week's meeting
(16:00:36) ***rtimm looking forward for a quiet working day next monday :-)
(16:01:51) stefan_b: rtimm, forget it. I will not go to Beijing. :-)
(16:03:55) ja_: ...once again...anything else ? Otherwise I declare this meeting as closed
(16:06:56) rtimm: ja_: declare!