ReleaseStatus Minutes 2007-12-03 IRC log

(14:58:23) ja_: hi
(14:59:49) kso [i=kso@nat/sun/x-82edd886bf271694] entered the room.
(15:00:07) paveljanik: Hi
(15:00:50) Fridrich: hi
(15:03:43) _rene_: hi
(15:04:39) xiuzhi: Hi all
(15:05:31) ja_: Current status of 2.3.1: I've uploaded en-US to stable. de, fr, ru, ja, it have been uploaded to localized. We're ready to release en-US, ja and de tomorrow at 12pm (Hamburg time) and fr and it at 3pm (Hamburg time) if Bouncer links work properly at that time.
(15:05:32) paveljanik: lets start?
(15:06:03) _rene_: ok, so we'll get the PM at noon tomorrow?
(15:06:20) _rene_: or when?
(15:06:51) ja_: PM ?
(15:07:01) ja_: marketing announcement ?
(15:07:06) _rene_: Pressemitteilung :)
(15:07:09) _rene_: yes
(15:07:21) ja_: I have to notify them
(15:08:15) blauwal [n=jr93709@sd-socks-197.staroffice.de] entered the room.
(15:09:38) ja_: anything else to coordinate for the 2.3.1 release ?
(15:10:49) ja_: ok, then I'll switch to 2.4
(15:11:31) Fridrich: concerning 2.4 re pavel's blog, does not look like the best idea to use 238 to branch off ooh680
(15:11:34) rtimm: I'd ask to postpone branching off OOH680 after next milestone (m239) and first fix the most urgent problems
(15:11:48) rtimm: In my eyes that are:
(15:11:56) Fridrich: rtimm: I would even propose not to branch before a complete freeze
(15:12:08) Fridrich: rtimm: it would be a lot of duplicated QA work
(15:12:10) ja_: with SRC680m238 we have included all child workspaces that needed to be included
(15:12:26) rtimm: Fridrich: after a freeze we do not need to branch, because it's frozen ;-)
(15:12:27) ja_: ...after feature freeze
(15:12:30) blauwal: Fridrich,rtimm: +1 let's fix the issues first before splitting#
(15:12:57) Fridrich: yeah, there are also some non-feature CWS still in the pipeline, so, branching too premature
(15:13:11) Fridrich: holding branching was quite a winning strategy for 2.3, so ...
(15:13:40) paveljanik: rtimm: I also want to branch after integration of dictionariesfor24.
(15:13:50) ja_: rtimm: +1
(15:13:52) blauwal: Fridrich: yes, but there will be always some more fixes. The rule is that we split if it's necessary to work on the development line without endangering the release line
(15:14:08) rtimm: paveljanik: which is scheduled for when?
(15:14:24) blauwal: Fridrich: we can delay it if it makes sense but not endless
(15:14:34) paveljanik: rtimm: it is RfQ now and I fixed the only bug from the previous QA round, so approx. tomorrow.
(15:14:39) Fridrich: blauwal: sure no endless
(15:15:02) Fridrich: there is a boostup01 AbQA also
(15:16:56) rtimm: So, what do we need before splitting? In my eyes at least fixes for
(15:17:05) rtimm: - creating install sets on wntmsci11
(15:17:20) rtimm: - executable flag on soffice.bin on mac
(15:17:28) rtimm: - langtab.src
(15:17:30) paveljanik: ... on all execs on mac
(15:17:43) rtimm: what else?
(15:18:19) blauwal: paveljanik: why wait for the dictionaries?
(15:18:58) paveljanik: blauwal: do you want to do integration twce? ;-)
(15:19:11) blauwal: paveljanik: Such is life ... :)
(15:19:16) ***_rene_ has also two important fix cwses in new right now
(15:19:37) _rene_: configure22 has important fixes and cws hyphenexternal even fixes a license problem :)
(15:19:59) _rene_: so why special-case dictionariesfor24? ;-)
(15:20:53) ja_: btw. Martin is not available today even if he's online within this IRC session
(15:21:02) blauwal: paveljanik: I principally never like doing integrations twice, but it will happen anyway. I don't to do it unnecessary for huge CWSs though
(15:22:19) Fridrich: blauwal: so, let's wait for m239 and let's avoid duplicate integrations :-)
(15:22:41) blauwal: Okay, I think we agree not to split before m239. We need all the fixes that rtimm mentioned, and anything else which is ready than
(15:22:48) blauwal: s/than/then/
(15:22:56) ja_: +1
(15:23:00) _rene_: +1
(15:23:00) blauwal: +1
(15:23:01) paveljanik: +1
(15:23:02) UweL: +1
(15:23:07) _rene_: when will you start m239? when do needs cwses AbQA?
(15:23:41) blauwal: _rene_: Depends on how long it takes to fix the issues Rüdiger mentioned
(15:23:41) ***_rene_ sees work for paveljanik to come in near future ;)
(15:24:01) Fridrich: we have 7 CWS for 2.4 that are AbQA and 2 that are nominated
(15:24:20) blauwal: _rene_: Your CWSs will go in later, and the double integration is only a burden for RE
(15:24:30) Fridrich: and 25 RfQA
(15:24:35) blauwal: _rene_: I mean if you don't make it to m239
(15:25:00) _rene_: blauwal: yeah, but if one can avoid you having to do double integrations and the time permits... ;)
(15:25:27) _rene_: blauwal: we'll see..
(15:25:37) blauwal: _rene_: right. As I said, m239 should fix the holes which were openend by m238
(15:25:53) blauwal: _rene_: that will define the time frame I think
(15:27:22) paveljanik: ok, next point?
(15:27:27) ja_: me wanted to thank paveljanik to raise the performance EIS issue. Bernd Eilers already fixed it by tweaking database parameters
(15:27:38) ja_: :)
(15:27:40) paveljanik: ja_: ;-)
(15:28:03) Fridrich: blauwal: for the while only one AbQA CWS for post 2.4
(15:28:40) Fridrich: :-)
(15:30:34) rtimm: Fridrich: and that one only because Martin changed the release, after QA approval. That may happen to even more CWS ...
(15:30:59) ja_: rtimm: who does SRC this week ?
(15:31:13) rtimm: btw, I've heard Martin ( _Nesshof_ ) is sick today, that's why he is so silent in today's meeting
(15:31:29) rtimm: ja_: Vladimir (vg)
(15:32:24) ja_: OK, anything else for today ?
(15:32:36) Fridrich: coffee and buiscuits
(15:32:53) rtimm: ja_: not from my side
(15:33:00) ja_: Fridrich: I have no biscuits :(
(15:33:10) UweL: +1 :-)
(15:33:19) ***rtimm misses biscuits, too
(15:33:19) _rene_: Fridrich: no fresh blood today? ;-)
(15:33:30) Fridrich: _rene_: no unpack, no fresh blood
(15:34:39) ja_: ...then I thank you for joining this meeting. Bye bye
(15:34:42) paveljanik: bye
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(15:35:05) Fridrich: bye
(15:35:11) blauwal: bye
(15:35:14) UweL: bye
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(15:36:00) rtimm: bye bye
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(15:37:05) xiuzhi: bye
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