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1. bullet point lists: If one creates a text frame in Impress and clicks on the button "numbering and bullet points", the newly created bullet point list has terrible standard defaults:

  • Almost no space between the bullet point and the text.
  • No ident for the second line of text under a bullet point. The second line appears left-justified directly under the bullet point. Instead, there should be a ident of the second line. It should begin exactly there where the first letter in the first line starts.


  • Change default bullet symbols for numbering bullets in text (not inside shapes).

2. hide empty bullets: After starting a presentation also empty bullet points are shown .. this make no sense and look strange and ugly in a presentation - ms office hide them too, so a lot of people are already used to this more suggestiv behavior.

3. serial effect as default: if you have a set of bullet points and you want the single points to f.e. 'fly in' you should have the possibility to take the whole box and give it the effect that they serial fly in.

solution => mark object and define custom annimation (f.e. Fly in) - doubleclick the animation1 (or click the '...' button2) -> 'Effect Options' dialog appear: on tabpage 'Text Animation' choose listboxentrie 'By 1st level paragraphs' then you have the single fly in effect which is rather unconfortable.


  • set the default to serial effect (better defaults)
  • make the effect options more visuable (feature enhancement)

4. Default Color of drawing objects: Inserting any drawing object, the default color is "Blue8" which is quite odd and ugly; especially compared to the default color(s) of the new color palette of the Chart module.

Therefore, I would please for either a changed default color for drawing objects or even an entire changed color palette for all drawing objects (e.g. the same as used in the Chart module).

Current shape color:
DrawingObjects.png DrawingObjectsIcons.png colors:

Chart colors (further suggestions):

Notes colors:
Notes2 2007-09-04 ColorsForTheNotes ForWiki.png

Report Designer Colors:

5. Change default Shadow: Default shadow should be transparent and smaller.
A better shadow effect can be achieved with Distance : 0,1 cm (instead of 0,3) ; Color : Black (instead of Grey) ; Transparency : 60 % (instead of 0%) => the transpirancy effect can cause huge delays by printing and is so not a good default in general .. and without transpirancy a black shadow looks strange, so the only senseful change is to make the shadow smaller by default.
Shadow.png ShadowCurrent.png

6. Change default pen color: the neon green color of the pen used to draw on a presentation is very difficult to see and the color is hard coded into OOo. I would like to see the default changed to perhaps black or red, as they are much easier colors to see.
(menue: slide show / slide show settings & check 'mouse pointer as pen' & starting a presentation)


with red pen:

with bigger red pen:

current & big red transparent (transparent to not cover slide info):

7. Eyedropper improved: after opening the Eyedropper dialog, you can choose a color from your bitmap graphic in your current presentation document for further manipulations. This color is not available outside of this dialog, but it should be. At least you should have the chance to recreate this color by knowing it's rgb values, but better would be to have the possibility to further use it in the 'color bar' if you want it.

  • show the rgb value to the dropped color
  • let overtake the choosen color into the color bar
  • change name in f.e. 'Color Replacer'


=> deferred because of new colorpicker concept that will follow in near future and solve this problem from root cause on; except the name change in Color Replacer.

8. d&d of colors in 'Color Bar': from example the color dialog .. to create user defined palettes. at the moment you have only the possibility to add single colors from the Area/Color dialog in the color bar (pretty hidden) and they are append at the end. to configure it by yourselfe f.e. by d&d would improve the current default color palette a lot.


=> deferred because of new color management concept that will follow in near future and solve this problem from root cause on.

9. Color dialog in toolbar: make the color dialog better available (at the moment pretty hidden: format/area/colors/modify) f.e. over an icon in the 'Line & Filling' toolbar and/or directly in the color bar for easier choosing own colors or change of the default color palette etc..


=> deferred because of new color management concept that will follow in near future and solve this problem from root cause on.

10. Common shortcut for Comments: Inserting comments in OOo programmes is inconsistent. 1st: since the name has changed from "notes" to "comments", the keyboard short-cut in Writer is still Ctrl-Alt-N, but should be Ctrl-Alt-C now. 2nd: None of these short-cuts works in Impress or Calc.

11. Shortcut for insert Slides: I know I can right click on the preview panel and select the pop-up menu, also from menu Insert\Slide, but this shortcut is so frequently used and should not leave for user's customization. It will also make lives a lot easier for users who do not want to move hands frequent to grab mouse during their slide-making.
It would be nice to set it to Ctrl+M, as consistent to Powerpoint's settings.

=> alt+i+e fix that problem .. a better solution like ctrl+m, ctrl+i or ctrl+s etc. (for insert slide) are already in use; and to add an unintuitive shortcut to replace an other unintuitive shortcut by limitating shortcut possibilities for future needs make less sense.


spec bullets/colors/shortcuts

community feedback

.. above issues mainly results from Better Defaults

Autor: Christoph Lukasiak (Clu) 8 June 2010

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