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−	=Community Council Main Wiki Page=	+	{{Community_Council}}
		+	= Minutes of Meetings  =
−	See [[Community_Council]] for the main wiki page and for the current agenda.	+	== 2011-04-21 ==
−	==Future Meetings==	+	Attendees: Andreas Bartel, Matthias Hütsch, Louis Suarez-Potts, Eike Rathke,  Stefan Taxhet
−	* Date: see [[Community_Council#Meeting_Schedule_2008|this Schedule]] for the dates and times of meetings for the rest of 2008	+	absent: Jürgen Schmidt
−	* Channel: #OOoCouncil (freenode)	+	Minute Taker: Martin Hollmichel
−	* Agenda: See [[The_OpenOffice.org_Community_Council_Agenda]]	+
−	==2008-05-22==	+	Some discussion about the Councils offer of their availability as community contacts to Oracle.
−	See the [[Community_Council_Minutes_20080522]]. IRC log.	+
−	==2008-04-17==	+	== 2011-04-01 ==
−	See the [[Community_Council_Minutes_20080417]]. IRC log.	+
−	==2008-03-27==	+	Attendees: Andreas Bartel, Matthias Hütsch, Eike Rathke, Jürgen Schmidt, Stefan Taxhet
−	See the [[Community_Council_Minutes_20080327]]. IRC log; minutes in the works.	+	absent: Louis Suarez-Potts
		+	Minute Taker: Martin Hollmichel
−	==2008-03-11==	+	=== Agenda ===
−	See the [[Community_Council_Minutes_20080311]]. It's an IRC log; minutes have not been posted yet.	+
−	==2008-01-31==	+	* Budget 2011
−	See the [[Community_Council_Minutes_20080131]]. It's an IRC log; minutes have not been posted yet.	+	* Internship 2010
		+	* Internship 2011
		+	* activities of the project
−	==2008-01-24==	+	=== Budget 2011 ===
−	See the [[Community_Council_Minutes_20080124 IRC log]]; minutes have not been posted yet.	+
−	==2008-01-09==	+	It was agreed on the [[Community_Council/Funding_And_Budgets/Budget_2011 | 2011]] budget (with a slightly higher amount as [[Community_Council/Funding_And_Budgets/Budget_2010 | 2010]] ) and with similar numbers as in 2010.
−	See the [[Community_Council_Minutes_20080109 | IRC log]]; minutes have not been posted yet.	+
−	==2007-12-06==	+	=== Internship 2010 ===
−	===Agenda===	+
−	See [[The OpenOffice.org Community Council Agenda]]	+
−	* from last meeting:	+	Jürgen will write up a summary regarding the internship 2010 (AI Jürgen), this should be published soon. Jürgen stated that the internship was quite successful and many of the results are expected to get integrated into the code.
−	* reviewing action items assigned	+
−	* status of criteria for certification	+
−	* adding nonvoting members	+
−	* trademark	+
−	* Fosdem 2008 funding	+
−	::at project leads List, LSP suggested to assign travel funds for fosdem 2008	+
−	::Eric Bachard asked for funding (in case his presentation is accepted). Cost for travel and will lodging be around 300 EUR (400 if booked short before the event)	+
−	* account of AB meeting	+
−	* new mission statement	+
−	===Attendees===	+	There was a longer discussion on how sustainable these internships are, quite controversially. Even if interns don't show up after their internship has been finished and we don#t see them all acting as multiplicators it seems useful to run the Internship again.
−	* Sophie Gautier (sophi)	+
−	* Martin Hollmichel (_Nesshof__)	+
−	* André Schnabel (Thalion72)	+
−	Absent:	+	=== Activities of the project ===
−	* Pavel Janík	+
−	* Matthias Huetsch	+
−	* Laurent Godard	+
−	* Louis Suarez-Potts	+
−	* John McCreesh	+
−	===Activity Items===	+	There's a lack of visibility of the OpenOffice.org project between releases. We are in the moment too weak on PR and other things. The OpenOffice.org 3.3 release had some good coverage in the press.
−	* Sophie: give more detailed update about certification criteria activities on the mailing list at the weekend	+	Contributions from non Oracle developers have decreased. It was suggested to invest in areas of the OpenOffice.org product where it is easy for 3rd party vendors to provide their own work. We already have a good basis for this with the template and extension repositories.
−	:: done: see [http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=1349 Sophie's mail]	+
−	* Andre: publish the Advisory Board meeting minutes (with comment that Zaheda did not comment the minutes yet) by the weekend	+
−	:: done: see [http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=727&expandFolder=727&folderID=727 Documents & Files] - [http://council.openoffice.org/files/documents/126/4135/OOoAdvisoryBoard_01Nov2007_MeetingNotes_v4.pdf AB meeting minutes]	+
−	* Martin: send proposal for a budget to the council list by the weekend	+
−	===Minutes===	+	For the Templates site there is some room for improvement:
		+	* better and more templates
		+	* leveraging the voting system
		+	* better search capabilities, better categorization
		+	* better integration in the template dialog, integrated search etc.
−	The IRC log for the last meeting is at [[Community_Council_Minutes_20071206]].	+	In some areas similar applies for the extension site.
−	* because we had trouble to agree on a time for the meeting only three members were present. Present members agreed to go through the Activity Items and some of the Agenda Items.	+	Also the integration of content feeds (blogs, news, other references) within the startup were discussed (like Netbeans, MS Developer Studio, etc. do).
−	* status of criteria for certification (Sophie)	+	Preparation for the upcoming 3.4 release are ongoing, activities in the QA and l10n projects are recovering again from last years “event”.
−	** the work has just begun this week at the certification list	+
−	** we have first contributions at the certification issue (several people including Leif Lodahl and Franz Jakob are working on that)	+
−	** Sophie will report more details via council mailing list at the weekend	+
−	* account of AB meeting	+	=== Internship 2011 ===
−	** Sophie got the 4th version of the minutes today. Not all attendees have commented the minutes (Zaheda is missing)	+
−	** We are going to publish the minutes at the council website (AI for André)	+
−	** Info from Sophie: OOoSCA addendum draft should be available next week for review by the AB	+
−	** Info from Sophie: for information next AB meeting is on 17th of December	+
−	* funding / budget of Team OOo (AI from last meeting)	+	Plan is to prepare internship for 2011 with focus with above topics (template and extension site integration), Stefan will ask for providing mentorship again. Especially the re-design of the template dialog might require some more efforts, more money will be put on this if required.
−	** Martin is working on a draft for a budget (income / spendings of Team OOo and how to use it within OOo)	+
−	** Martin will post the draft by the weekend to the council list	+
−	* new mission statement	+	=== Action Items ===
−	** the new [[Mission Statement]] is actively discussed at the wiki.	+
−	* other agenda items (adding nonvoting members, trademark, Fosdem 2008 funding) have been postponed, as this would need more input from other council members	+	* 2011-04-01-01 : Jürgen to provide summary about internship 2010
		+	* 2011-04-01-02 : all: collect possible requirements for templates and extensions integration
		+	* 2011-04-01-03 : Stefan: ask for mentor-ship support
−	===Next Meeting===
−	Tentatively scheduled for Wednesday 2008-01-09
−	==2007-11-22==	+	== Archived Meeting Minutes  ==
−	===Agenda===	+
−	see [[The OpenOffice.org Community Council Agenda#2007-11-22]]	+
−	===Attendees===	+
−	* Martin Hollmichel (_Nesshof__)	+
−	* Stefan Taxhet (stx12)	+
−	* Sophie Gautier (sophi)	+
−	* Pavel Janík (paveljanik)	+
−	* Matthias Huetsch (mhu)	+
−	* Laurent Godard (lgodard)	+
−	* Louis Suarez-Potts (louis_to)	+
−	* Absent: John McCreesh	+	The following pages archive the old meeting minutes of the Community Council:
−	* André Schnabel	+
−	===Action Items===	+	*[[Community Council/Minutes 2010|Minutes 2010]]
		+	*[[Community Council/Minutes 2009|Minutes 2009]]
		+	*[[Community Council/Minutes 2008|Minutes 2008]]
		+	*[[Community Council/Minutes 2007|Minutes 2007]]
−	===Minutes===	+	[[Category:Community_Council]]
−	The IRC log for the last meeting is at [[Community_Council_Minutes_20071122]]. Minutes to follow, to be located on the same page. Not all the agenda items were dealt with the time allotted, 1.5 hours. These items will be addressed the next meeting.	+
−		+
−	===Next Meeting===	+
−		+
−	==2007-10-17==	+
−	===Agenda===	+
−		+
−	===Attendees===	+
−		+
−	===Activity Items===	+
−		+
−	===Minutes===	+
−	Nothing significant happened on 17 October during the meeting: absentees. Work was done via mail list	+
−		+
−	===Next Meeting===	+
−	November 22, 14:00 UTC or some other friendly time	+
−		+
−		+
−	==2007-09-18==	+
−	Barcelona in-person meeting	+
−	===Attendees===	+
−	* Stefan Taxhet	+
−	* Sophie Gautier	+
−	* Pavel Janík	+
−	* Matthias Huetsch	+
−	* André Schnabel	+
−	* Marin Hollmichel	+
−	* Michael Meeks (stand-in for Laurent Godard)	+
−	* Louis Suarez-Potts (note taker)	+
−	* Absent: John McCreesh (conflicting event)	+
−		+
−	===Activity Items===	+
−	* '''AI''': Sophie to contact candidates for creating the support/certification criteria. Discussions can be held on the public certification list in documentation project.	+
−	* '''AI''': LSP: start elections for CCR	+
−	* '''AI''': LSP: ask at trademark list for reasons to actively defend trademark (would we loose trademark, if we do not defend it?)	+
−		+
−	===Minutes===	+
−	* Note: We used—or tried to—the wiki for the agenda this meeting. That did not work out.	+
−	* '''Elections'''	+
−	** Proposal: To start them immediately after OOoCon, beginning with the Community Contributor followed shortly (two weeks later) with other CC elections. As usual, we will announce elections to all the major lists.	+
−	** Action: accepted	+
−	* '''Trademark'''	+
−	** Synopsis of the issues regarding the trademark: status quo of team OpenOffice.org e.V. Owning US trademark and Sun the defending it elsewhere.	+
−	** question about reasons to sell trademark to sun arose. Possible reason: we would loose trademark if we do not defend it (Team OOo who actually owns the TM in US does not have the ressource to defend it)	+
−	** Proposal: to vote to continue discussions on the above point—status quo.--on the trademark list.	+
−	** Action: let's discuss it more on the list and find out precisely from Sun the legal issues at stake.	+
−	*'''Training and certification''' yes, this again.	+
−	** Proposal: to clarify the issue. ECDL and others want to certify users of OOo and the issue is, how do we participate. Drafting criteria has not worked out: no one wants to do it. But if we want to postion OpenOffice.org so that it s relevant, it seems needed.	+
−	** AI Sophie inquire about funding someone to drive the criteria for payment. The CC would provide the funds via Team OpenOffice.org.	+
−		+
−	===Other items===	+
−	* Do we need to change the structure and charter?	+
−	** Action: There was a fair amount of discussion on the issue and the answer was no. Of the things that were suggested (see below) the changes were procedural, not substantive. The issue was that we need to enjoin participation by the council members. It's too easy for things to go slack. Regarding a change of the Council due to new companies joining the community, it was discussed, that this would rather imply a new board instead of adding companies to the concil.	+
−	* After discussion, in which we even re-read the Charter, we agreed on the following:	+
−	** Timeframe must be stipulated in the message to [mailto:discuss@concil discuss@council] (if a council member fails to vode within the timeframe she is considered as "Absent from Council Participation" as written at pt. VI n of the Council Charter)	+
−	** We keep with consensus (if one member continously blockes votes, this might be considered as misconduct and dealt wiht according pt. IV, b, iv, iii of the coincil charter)	+
−	** Use wiki to post agenda, minutes	+
−	** Drop [mailto:agenda@council agenda@council] and use a wiki page, the last week's minutes; minutes would also be posted to the date titled page and linked to from the usual places, such as the OOo logon page.	+
−	* We also more tentatively agreed to have standard agenda items:	+
−	** finances	+
−	** community events	+
−	** And we agreed, provisionally to hold meetings once a month at minimum but also whenever there are pressing issues	+
−	* We also discussed the possibility of including new permanent members, in the same capacity as Stefan, but the conclusion was that though this may be in fact what occurs, it's at the moment hypothetical occasion,.	+

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Minutes of Meetings

2011-04-21

Attendees: Andreas Bartel, Matthias Hütsch, Louis Suarez-Potts, Eike Rathke,  Stefan Taxhet
absent: Jürgen Schmidt
Minute Taker: Martin Hollmichel

Some discussion about the Councils offer of their availability as community contacts to Oracle.

2011-04-01

Attendees: Andreas Bartel, Matthias Hütsch, Eike Rathke, Jürgen Schmidt, Stefan Taxhet
absent: Louis Suarez-Potts
Minute Taker: Martin Hollmichel

Agenda

• Budget 2011
• Internship 2010
• Internship 2011
• activities of the project

Budget 2011

It was agreed on the 2011 budget (with a slightly higher amount as 2010 ) and with similar numbers as in 2010.

Internship 2010

Jürgen will write up a summary regarding the internship 2010 (AI Jürgen), this should be published soon. Jürgen stated that the internship was quite successful and many of the results are expected to get integrated into the code.

There was a longer discussion on how sustainable these internships are, quite controversially. Even if interns don't show up after their internship has been finished and we don#t see them all acting as multiplicators it seems useful to run the Internship again.

Activities of the project

There's a lack of visibility of the OpenOffice.org project between releases. We are in the moment too weak on PR and other things. The OpenOffice.org 3.3 release had some good coverage in the press.

Contributions from non Oracle developers have decreased. It was suggested to invest in areas of the OpenOffice.org product where it is easy for 3rd party vendors to provide their own work. We already have a good basis for this with the template and extension repositories.

For the Templates site there is some room for improvement:

• better and more templates
• leveraging the voting system
• better search capabilities, better categorization
• better integration in the template dialog, integrated search etc.

In some areas similar applies for the extension site.

Also the integration of content feeds (blogs, news, other references) within the startup were discussed (like Netbeans, MS Developer Studio, etc. do).

Preparation for the upcoming 3.4 release are ongoing, activities in the QA and l10n projects are recovering again from last years “event”.

Internship 2011

Plan is to prepare internship for 2011 with focus with above topics (template and extension site integration), Stefan will ask for providing mentorship again. Especially the re-design of the template dialog might require some more efforts, more money will be put on this if required.

Action Items

• 2011-04-01-01 : Jürgen to provide summary about internship 2010
• 2011-04-01-02 : all: collect possible requirements for templates and extensions integration
• 2011-04-01-03 : Stefan: ask for mentor-ship support

Archived Meeting Minutes

The following pages archive the old meeting minutes of the Community Council:

• Minutes 2010
• Minutes 2009
• Minutes 2008
• Minutes 2007