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| − | == 2009-04-30== | + | == 2011-04-21 == |
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| − | === Agenda of that meeting ===
| + | Attendees: Andreas Bartel, Matthias Hütsch, Louis Suarez-Potts, Eike Rathke, Stefan Taxhet |
| − | # Minutes of previous meeting for approval
| + | absent: Jürgen Schmidt |
| − | # Action items
| + | Minute Taker: Martin Hollmichel |
| − | ## Budget
| + | |
| − | ### Louis: schedule a conference call with CC members for next week regarding budget issues
| + | |
| − | ### Matthias: money on account and estimates for incomes and taxes to pay
| + | |
| − | ### Louis: Send estimates for several important upcoming events to budget@
| + | |
| − | ## SPI - update
| + | |
| − | ## Trademark
| + | |
| − | ### Update
| + | |
| − | ## Louis, André: elections draft announcement + schedule
| + | |
| − | ## L10n infrastructure
| + | |
| − | ## Cor: project improvement page: further clarification
| + | |
| − | ## All: project improvement page: input for content and links
| + | |
| − | ## ..
| + | |
| − | # OpenOffice.org Internship
| + | |
| − | ## Discussion started on contests@marketing.openoffice.org
| + | |
| − | ## last time, marketing was the weekest point
| + | |
| − | ## idea is that funding comes from marketing and development budget
| + | |
| − | ## any suggestions / whishes from the cc at this moment
| + | |
| − | # Proposal for role of council coordinator
| + | |
| − | ## see [http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=2000 mail list]
| + | |
| − | ## discussion
| + | |
| − | ## to go or not to go
| + | |
| − | # Growing the project
| + | |
| − | ## ...
| + | |
| − | # Guidelines for bundling extensions
| + | |
| − | :: [http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100836 issue 100836] requests the removal of the writer2latex extension from OOo 3.1 (raised as showstopper) | + | |
| − | :: reason was given in [http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100744 issue 100744] as "According to our guidelines for bundling extensions we cannot bundle extensions which are not covered by the guidelines to contribute (meaning SCA)."
| + | |
| − | :: Question to the council: where are those guidelines, who approved these guidelines at what time?
| + | |
| | | | |
| − | === irc-log ===
| + | Some discussion about the Councils offer of their availability as community contacts to Oracle. |
| | | | |
| − | === AI's === | + | == 2011-04-01 == |
| | | | |
| − | # Budget
| + | Attendees: Andreas Bartel, Matthias Hütsch, Eike Rathke, Jürgen Schmidt, Stefan Taxhet |
| − | ## Louis: schedule a conference call with CC members regarding budget issues
| + | absent: Louis Suarez-Potts |
| − | ## Matthias: more clear on situation wrt taxes to pay?
| + | Minute Taker: Martin Hollmichel |
| − | ## Louis: Send and gather estimates for several important upcoming events to budget@
| + | |
| − | # Trademark policy
| + | |
| − | ## Do we know by now why we need/want it
| + | |
| − | # Elections
| + | |
| − | ## Running ?
| + | |
| − | # L10n infrastructure
| + | |
| − | ## More news from discussion?
| + | |
| − | # Project improvement page
| + | |
| − | ## Cor add some content, then ping Louis to mail project leads
| + | |
| | | | |
| − | === Notes === | + | === Agenda === |
| − | Important info / discussion, not coming back as AI for the nextmeeting
| + | |
| | | | |
| − | * SPI; info about procedures / position / possibility to improve (when we want to invest time) | + | * Budget 2011 |
| | + | * Internship 2010 |
| | + | * Internship 2011 |
| | + | * activities of the project |
| | | | |
| − | === Minutes === | + | === Budget 2011 === |
| | | | |
| − | TBD
| + | It was agreed on the [[Community_Council/Funding_And_Budgets/Budget_2011 | 2011]] budget (with a slightly higher amount as [[Community_Council/Funding_And_Budgets/Budget_2010 | 2010]] ) and with similar numbers as in 2010. |
| | | | |
| − | == 2009-04-09== | + | === Internship 2010 === |
| | | | |
| − | === Agenda of that meeting ===
| + | Jürgen will write up a summary regarding the internship 2010 (AI Jürgen), this should be published soon. Jürgen stated that the internship was quite successful and many of the results are expected to get integrated into the code. |
| − | # L10n builds distribution over the network, see [http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?listName=discuss&msgNo=1986 Rafaella mail]
| + | |
| − | ## what can we do to support
| + | |
| − | ## ..
| + | |
| − | # Growing the project
| + | |
| − | ## see [http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=1999 mail list]
| + | |
| − | ## discussion
| + | |
| − | ## to go or not to go
| + | |
| − | # Proposal for role of council coordinator
| + | |
| − | ## see [http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=2000 mail list]
| + | |
| − | ## discussion
| + | |
| − | ## to go or not to go
| + | |
| − | # Guidelines for bundling extensions
| + | |
| − | :: [http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100836 issue 100836] requests the removal of the writer2latex extension from OOo 3.1 (raised as showstopper)
| + | |
| − | :: reason was given in [http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=100744 issue 100744] as "According to our guidelines for bundling extensions we cannot bundle extensions which are not covered by the guidelines to contribute (meaning SCA)."
| + | |
| − | :: Question to the council: where are those guidelines, who approved these guidelines at what time?
| + | |
| − | # Minutes of previous meeting for approval
| + | |
| − | # Action items
| + | |
| − | ## Budget
| + | |
| − | ### Louis: schedule a conference call with CC members for next week regarding budget issues
| + | |
| − | ### Matthias: money on account and estimates for incomes and taxes to pay
| + | |
| − | ### Louis: Send estimates for several important upcoming events to budget@
| + | |
| − | ## SPI - update
| + | |
| − | ## Trademark
| + | |
| − | ### Louis to review with André and John trademark proposals; also to revisit the list (done)
| + | |
| − | ### Update
| + | |
| − | ## Louis, André: elections draft announcement + schedule
| + | |
| − | ## Cor to send to CC list proposals on CC function, structure and community growth (both done)
| + | |
| | | | |
| − | === log ===
| + | There was a longer discussion on how sustainable these internships are, quite controversially. Even if interns don't show up after their internship has been finished and we don#t see them all acting as multiplicators it seems useful to run the Internship again. |
| − | * [[Community_Council_Log_20090409]]
| + | |
| | | | |
| − | === AI's === | + | === Activities of the project === |
| − | # Budget
| + | |
| − | ## Louis: schedule a conference call with CC members for next week regarding budget issues
| + | |
| − | ## Matthias: money on account and estimates for incomes and taxes to pay
| + | |
| − | ## Louis: Send estimates for several important upcoming events to budget@
| + | |
| − | # SPI - update
| + | |
| − | # Trademark
| + | |
| − | ## Update
| + | |
| − | # Louis, André: elections draft announcement + schedule
| + | |
| − | # L10n infrastructure
| + | |
| − | # Cor: further discussion on proposal council coordinator via mail
| + | |
| − | # Cor: project improvement page: further clarification
| + | |
| − | # All: project improvement page: input for content and links
| + | |
| | | | |
| − | === Minutes ===
| + | There's a lack of visibility of the OpenOffice.org project between releases. We are in the moment too weak on PR and other things. The OpenOffice.org 3.3 release had some good coverage in the press. |
| − | TBD
| + | |
| | | | |
| − | == 2009-03-26==
| + | Contributions from non Oracle developers have decreased. It was suggested to invest in areas of the OpenOffice.org product where it is easy for 3rd party vendors to provide their own work. We already have a good basis for this with the template and extension repositories. |
| | | | |
| − | === Agenda of that meeting ===
| + | For the Templates site there is some room for improvement: |
| − | # Minutes of previous meeting for approval
| + | * better and more templates |
| − | # Action items
| + | * leveraging the voting system |
| − | ## Elections ..
| + | * better search capabilities, better categorization |
| − | ## New charter - done
| + | * better integration in the template dialog, integrated search etc. |
| − | ## Budget precedures - done
| + | |
| − | ## SPI
| + | |
| − | ### mails to CC list ..
| + | |
| − | ### info on donations page - done
| + | |
| − | ## Trademark
| + | |
| − | ## Growing the project
| + | |
| − | ### info on wiki
| + | |
| − | ### further ideas / discussion
| + | |
| − | # (2009) Budget
| + | |
| − | ## Is it possible to work with yearly spending / income sheets etc. (see irc log)
| + | |
| − | # Proposal for role of council co-ordinator
| + | |
| − | ## appoint a council coordinator every 4 to 5 months, who is responsible during that time for poking the colleagues ;-) etc.
| + | |
| − | ### will improve overall cc-performance
| + | |
| − | ### will help to share the feeling of really being part of it, of joined responsibility
| + | |
| − | # L10n builds distribution over the network, see [http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?listName=discuss&msgNo=1986 Rafaella mail]
| + | |
| | | | |
| − | === log ===
| + | In some areas similar applies for the extension site. |
| − | * [[Community Council Log 20090326]]
| + | |
| | | | |
| − | === AI's ===
| + | Also the integration of content feeds (blogs, news, other references) within the startup were discussed (like Netbeans, MS Developer Studio, etc. do). |
| − | Action items
| + | |
| − | # Budget
| + | |
| − | ## Louis: schedule a conference call with CC members for next week regarding budget issues
| + | |
| − | ## Matthias: money on account and estimates for incomes and taxes to pay
| + | |
| − | ## Louis: Send estimates for several important upcoming events to budget@
| + | |
| − | # SPI - update
| + | |
| − | # Trademark
| + | |
| − | ## Louis to review with André and John trademark proposals; also to revisit the list (done)
| + | |
| − | ## Update
| + | |
| − | # Louis, André: elections draft announcement + schedule
| + | |
| − | # Cor to send to CC list proposals on CC function, structure and community growth (both done)
| + | |
| | | | |
| − | === Minutes ===
| + | Preparation for the upcoming 3.4 release are ongoing, activities in the QA and l10n projects are recovering again from last years “event”. |
| − | * Minutes TBD
| + | |
| | | | |
| − | == 2009-03-12 [[Community Council Notes 20090312]] == | + | === Internship 2011 === |
| | | | |
| − | === Agenda of that meeting ===
| + | Plan is to prepare internship for 2011 with focus with above topics (template and extension site integration), Stefan will ask for providing mentorship again. Especially the re-design of the template dialog might require some more efforts, more money will be put on this if required. |
| − | # Minutes of previous meeting for approval and action items
| + | |
| − | # 2008 Financial Statement
| + | |
| − | # 2009 Budget
| + | |
| − | # Proposal for role of Community Co-ordinator (Cor)
| + | |
| − | # Update on Trademarks (Sophie)
| + | |
| | | | |
| − | === Attendees === | + | === Action Items === |
| − | * Sophie Gautier (sophi)
| + | |
| − | * Matthias Huetsch (mhu)
| + | |
| − | * John McCreesh (jpmcc)
| + | |
| − | * Cor Nouws (CorNouws)
| + | |
| − | * André Schnabel (Thalion72)
| + | |
| − | * Stefan Taxhet (stx12)
| + | |
| | | | |
| − | ** absent: Pavel Janik (paveljanik) | + | * 2011-04-01-01 : Jürgen to provide summary about internship 2010 |
| − | ** absent: Martin Hollmichel (_Nesshof_) | + | * 2011-04-01-02 : all: collect possible requirements for templates and extensions integration |
| | + | * 2011-04-01-03 : Stefan: ask for mentor-ship support |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| − | === Minutes ===
| |
| − | ====New and Familiar Action Items====
| |
| − | * Elections: to commence this week with candidate nominations (Louis and Sophie).
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| − | *Announcements related to new charter and elections:
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| − | 1. For new charter (André and John, ''completed'')
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| − | 2. for nominations and election news, 3 days after the first announcement
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| − | * Trademark update (In lawyer's hands; update: Sophie, John, Louis): "in progress"
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| − | * Budget procedures clarification (John and probably others): ''in progress''
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| − | * LSP: Louis to re-send to CC list original emails related to SPI
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| | | | |
| − | ===Summary/Minutes=== | + | == Archived Meeting Minutes == |
| − | * Prior minutes were approved
| + | |
| | | | |
| − | ===Old Action Items and actions and summary of discussion===
| + | The following pages archive the old meeting minutes of the Community Council: |
| − | * André: review plebiscite on Community Council Proposal, ask the council to formally accept the proposal and publish as new version of the charter - complete - on agenda -''completed''
| + | |
| − | * John: make budget procedures more visible - ''completed''
| + | |
| − | * Sophie: prepare a short note about trademark proposal for the next meeting - complete -'' on agenda''
| + | |
| − | * Sophie: resend mail on SPI to the council list for comments - on agenda
| + | |
| − | * Louis / Matthias: get treasurers of Team OOo e.V. and SPI in contact - Action: Matthias to ping Louis for contact details - ''completed''
| + | |
| − | * Charter change (André) see email - Agreed Proposal formally accepted by Council, updated on Web, ''completed''.
| + | |
| − | Trademark (Sophie) draft_0.6 is ready, waiting comments from Marketing - Action: under legal review, ''continuing''
| + | |
| − | * Budget (Cor) we intended to decide on the budget for 2009. Is info available? Martin said this was scheduled for March.
| + | |
| − | * Budget (Cor) Proposal for clear routing of funding request: see email. Agreed. Action - Cor --''completed''
| + | |
| − | * Budget (Cor) Proposal to ask the l10n-team at Sun, if new hardware is badly needed see mail. Action Stefan to see if we can improve quality of service by spending CC budget on infrastructure: ''completed'':
| + | |
| − | ** ST spoke with Rafallea Branconi and she "feels comfortable with the current setup with 2 pootle servers.'we will monitor these more closely to see whether they are as reliable as we need it. Sophie argued that language partition is inefficient and that we should partition by region instead. ''Discussion to continue''
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| − | * Budget (Sophie) SPI Info needed see mail – Action: Louis/Sophie contacted SPI and Louis is sending MHU notifications of donations; link to SPI repository on donation page (http://contributing.openoffice.org/donate.html). L/S attended last Board meeting as observers and will participate more actively to run for office. (Why SPI? Because makes it easier for US residents to pay via cheque or credit card.)
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| − | * Growing the project (Cor) see mail Action Cor to put on the wiki- completed: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Project_Improvements : ''Discussions to be conducted on list'' '''Action remaining: Louis to re-send to CC list original emails'''.
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| − | * This year's GSoC (John) Action Stefan to see if we are likely to be accepted- ''discussed''
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| − | * Proposals for OOoCon and the Community consultation process (John). John stated that after discussions on the lists, the Marketing Project had decided to change the process to award OOoCon one year in advance. This would give teams more time to prepare and to allow them to learn from the previous team. This means this year the MP will be awarding OOoCon 09 and 10, then next year OOoCon 11, etc. As time was short, John agreed to continue this conversation on the CC list. Action John--''completed''
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| − | == 2009-02-19 (IRC) ==
| + | *[[Community Council/Minutes 2010|Minutes 2010]] |
| | + | *[[Community Council/Minutes 2009|Minutes 2009]] |
| | + | *[[Community Council/Minutes 2008|Minutes 2008]] |
| | + | *[[Community Council/Minutes 2007|Minutes 2007]] |
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| − | ===Attendees===
| + | [[Category:Community_Council]] |
| − | * Sophie Gautier (sophi)
| + | |
| − | * Pavel Janik (paveljanik)
| + | |
| − | * Martin Hollmichel (_Nesshof_)
| + | |
| − | * Matthias Huetsch (mhu)
| + | |
| − | * John McCreesh (jpmcc)
| + | |
| − | * Cor Nouws (CorNouws)
| + | |
| − | * André Schnabel (Thalion72)
| + | |
| − | * Stefan Taxhet (stx12)
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| − | | + | |
| − | * missing:
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| − | ** Louis Suarez-Potts (absent)
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| − | | + | |
| − | ===Minutes===
| + | |
| − | 16:45 Meeting opened
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| − | # Minutes of previous meeting - approved
| + | |
| − | # Action items
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| − | ## André: review plebiscite on Community Council Proposal, ask the council to formally accept the proposal and publish as new version of the charter - complete - ''on agenda''
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| − | ## John: make budget procedures more visible - ''complete''
| + | |
| − | ## Cor: draft a proposal for a more clear workflow - ''on agenda''
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| − | ## Sophie: prepare a short note about trademark proposal for the next meeting - complete - ''on agenda''
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| − | ## Sophie: resend mail on SPI to the council list for comments - ''on agenda''
| + | |
| − | ## Louis / Matthias: get treasurers of Team OOo e.V. and SPI in contact - '''Action''': Matthias to ping Louis for contact details
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| − | # Charter change (André) [http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=1944 see email] - '''Agreed''' Proposal formally accepted by Council
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| − | # Trademark (Sophie) draft_0.6 is ready, waiting comments from Marketing - '''Action''': John to review
| + | |
| − | # Budget (Cor) we intended to decide on the budget for 2009. Is info available? Martin said this was scheduled for March.
| + | |
| − | # Budget (Cor) Proposal for clear routing of funding request: [http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=1923 see email]. '''Agreed'''. '''Action''' - Cor to add to wiki
| + | |
| − | # Budget (Cor) Proposal to ask the l10n-team at Sun, if new hardware is badly needed [http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=1843 see mail]. '''Action''' Stefan to see if we can improve quality of service by spending CC budget on infrastructure
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| − | # Budget (Sophie) SPI Info needed [http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=1854 see mail] - already discussed
| + | |
| − | # Growing the project (Cor) [http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=1946 see mail] '''Action''' Cor to put on the wiki
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| − | # This year's [http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2009/faqs.html GSoC] (John) '''Action''' Stefan to see if we are likely to be accepted
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| − | # [http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2009/cfl/index.html Proposals for OOoCon] and the Community consultation process (John). John stated that after discussions on the lists, the Marketing Project had decided to change the process to award OOoCon one year in advance. This would give teams more time to prepare and to allow them to learn from the previous team. This means this year the MP will be awarding OOoCon 09 and 10, then next year OOoCon 11, etc. As time was short, John agreed to continue this conversation on the CC list. '''Action''' John
| + | |
| − | # AOB - none
| + | |
| − | 17:49 UTC Meeting closed
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| − | | + | |
| − | ==2009-01-22 (IRC)==
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | ===Attendees===
| + | |
| − | * Sophie Gautier (sophi)
| + | |
| − | * Martin Hollmichel (_Nesshof_)
| + | |
| − | * Matthias Huetsch (mhu)
| + | |
| − | * Cor Nouws (CorNouws)
| + | |
| − | * André Schnabel (Thalion72)
| + | |
| − | * Stefan Taxhet (stx12)
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | * missing:
| + | |
| − | ** Louis Suarez-Potts (excused)
| + | |
| − | ** Pavel Janik
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| − | | + | |
| − | ===New Action Items===
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | * André: review plebiscite on Community Council Proposal, ask the council to formally accept the proposal and publish as new version of the charter
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | * John: make budget procedures more visible
| + | |
| − | * Cor: draft a proposal for a more clear workflow
| + | |
| − |
| + | |
| − | * Sophie: prepare a short note about trademark proposal for the next meeting
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | * Sophie: resend mail on SPI to the council list for comments
| + | |
| − | * Louis / Matthias: get treasurers of Team OOo e.V. and SPI in contact
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| − | | + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | ===Agenda===
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| − | | + | |
| − | # Minutes of previous meeting for approval
| + | |
| − | # Approval of provisional budgets for 2009
| + | |
| − | # Endorsement of "Developer's Manifesto 2009"
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| − | # AOB
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | ===Minutes===
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| − | | + | |
| − | * budget holders can start with the same budgets as for 2008. Budgets for 2009 will be reviewed end of Feb. (after Team OOo e.V. finished finanzial review, budged holders are asked to prepare a more detailed budget plan, if possible)
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| − | | + | |
| − | * a "Developer's Manifesto 2009" will be published on the OOo website, as porposed on the [http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=1922 council mailing list]
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| − | * Other business
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| − | ** the new Charter Proposal has passed all steps that are necessary to become final. The results of the plebiscite need to be reviewed and the proposal needs to be published at the council website as new version of the charter.
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| − | :: AI for André: review plebiscite, ask the council to formally accept the proposal and publish as new version of the charter
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | :* André suggested to move the budget and funding procedures to the council website. Proposal was rejected, as the procedure is likely to be reworked.
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| − | :: AI for John: make budget procedures more visible
| + | |
| − | :: AI for Cor: draft a proposal for a more clear workflow
| + | |
| − |
| + | |
| − | :* CorNouws asked what the status of the trademark proposal is
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| − | :: AI for Sophie: prepare a short note about trademark proposal for the next meeting
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | :* Sophie asked for more information about SPI
| + | |
| − | :: AI for Sophie: resend mail on SPI to the council list for comments
| + | |
| − | :: AI for Louis / Matthias: get treasurers of Team OOo e.V. and SPI in contact
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | === Log ===
| + | |
| − | [[Community Council Log 20092201]]
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | == OLDER MEETINGS ... 2008 and before ==
| + | |
| − | See the next page:
| + | |
| − | [[Community_Council/Minutes_2008_and_older]]
| + | |
Some discussion about the Councils offer of their availability as community contacts to Oracle.
Jürgen will write up a summary regarding the internship 2010 (AI Jürgen), this should be published soon. Jürgen stated that the internship was quite successful and many of the results are expected to get integrated into the code.
There was a longer discussion on how sustainable these internships are, quite controversially. Even if interns don't show up after their internship has been finished and we don#t see them all acting as multiplicators it seems useful to run the Internship again.
There's a lack of visibility of the OpenOffice.org project between releases. We are in the moment too weak on PR and other things. The OpenOffice.org 3.3 release had some good coverage in the press.
Contributions from non Oracle developers have decreased. It was suggested to invest in areas of the OpenOffice.org product where it is easy for 3rd party vendors to provide their own work. We already have a good basis for this with the template and extension repositories.
Also the integration of content feeds (blogs, news, other references) within the startup were discussed (like Netbeans, MS Developer Studio, etc. do).
Preparation for the upcoming 3.4 release are ongoing, activities in the QA and l10n projects are recovering again from last years “event”.
Plan is to prepare internship for 2011 with focus with above topics (template and extension site integration), Stefan will ask for providing mentorship again. Especially the re-design of the template dialog might require some more efforts, more money will be put on this if required.
