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| − | *Now that many members of the community council support the Document Foundation: how do find the best way to go on?
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| − | *Discussion: A summary seems hard to provide, so please consider to read the [[Community Council Log 20101014#IRC_Log_2010-10-14|IRC Log]].
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| − | *Result: Cor and Martin will have a talk and discuss the topic. Additionally, some community council members request to resolve the issue by next Tuesday (2010-10-19).
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| | *2010-09-03/09-21: Page with draft plan [[Community Council/collaboration in the OOo-community|improvement community collaboration]] | | *2010-09-03/09-21: Page with draft plan [[Community Council/collaboration in the OOo-community|improvement community collaboration]] |
| | *2010-11-25: Stefan will continue to work on this on behalf of other CC members | | *2010-11-25: Stefan will continue to work on this on behalf of other CC members |
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| − | *Request by a community member to discuss / decide the following question: "''Why should OpenOffice.org give away it's presence on the user's desktop - the main place to be recognized by the people - only to support the "application independency" of ODF?'' A Sun employee stated "The idea of supporting ODF as a application independent open standard is the priority." This leads / will lead to changes with regard to the document and application icon design. The current ODF "only" icons seem to be undesired by the community. Original request to the CC on ooo-discuss: [http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=65958 initial mail (2010-04-14)], [http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?listName=discuss&from=2361081&to=2361081&count=28&by=thread&first=1&windowSize=1000 full mail thread]
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| − | **2010-04-29: Some members stated that the request should be "more actionable" and "better framed" to be decided by the community. Proposal has been made to forward the request to council-discuss to propose how to proceed.
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| − | **2010-05-02: Christoph forwarded the [http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=2564 request to the CC mailing list]. A first discussion took place.
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| − | **2010-05-20: Intensive discussion about the request and how to address it. Stefan and Christoph agreed to work out a request to the ODF Icons team to iterate on the design and/or processes. Maybe a "refreshed" team which may provide an agreed-upon proposal. Stefan stated that there shouldn't be any dependency to the next/other releases.
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| − | **2010-06-08: Some opinions have been requested from people who initially worked in the branding initiative. Either there isn't feedback yet, or the people aren't currently available to support the i-Team. Ongoing ...
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| − | **2010-06-30: Still ongoing ...
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| − | **2010-07-22: Andreas provided some insight what currently happens within Oracle. The topic "icons" is currently addressed ...
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| − | ***A discussion took place with Michael Bemmer and other people at Oracle.
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| − | ***Outcome: Oracle marketing made a decision that is supposed to be communicated shortly. --> Icons will be redesigned, for the long run, with constraints.
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| − | ***Motivation: The current design fails with regard to usability aspects. --> Redesign is intended with focus on usability.
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| − | ***Constraints: The activity will be run open with all necessary involvements.
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| − | ***Question to Andreas/Martin to discuss whether the official statement may be discussed with the community before it is going to be published "officially".
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| − | ***Decision to keep this CC Action Item open until there is more visible activity.
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| − | **2010-08-12: Marketing contact is in vacation, and information also depends on others at Oracle. More information definitely to come at the OOoCon, presentation "[http://www.ooocon.org/index.php/ooocon/2010/paper/view/215 Brand Refresh and new Brand Initiative]".<br>
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| − | **2010-09-21: Request for update sent to Oracle, nothing new yet.
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| − | *Next steps: Waiting for the reaction by Oracle, either getting in touch with the community or an official announcement.<br>
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| − | *Cornouws: discussed during OOoCon; looks as if we were able to bring across the importance, however, other tasks ask attention first from Oracle people.<br>
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| − | * 2010-11-25: Andreas took over this item and reported that a new iTeam is created to work on the icons again but on basis of some existing constraints.
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