Difference between revisions of "Log Mac Meeting 29 August 2007"

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[15:01] <shaunmcdonald> Meeting time?

[15:03] <hdu_hh> shaunmcdonald: ok with me

[15:03] <ericb2> ok

[15:04] <ericb2> befre to start, I think the Agenda is outdated

[15:04] <ericb2> -befre +before

[15:06] <shaunmcdonald> probably

[15:06] <ericb2> nobody maintained ?

[15:06] * shaunmcdonald would like to add the usage of the mac@porting list to the agenda

[15:07] <shaunmcdonald> ericb2: we didn't know what was coming up

[15:07] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald: I think a simple post, will be sufficient

[15:07] <ericb2> Agenda for 15th August 2007 meeting

[15:07] <ericb2> 1. Welcome new devs joining Mac OS X port

[15:08] <ericb2> New devs around ?

[15:08] <ericb2> wolfe: want to join the port ?

[15:09] * ericb2 modified the agenda : http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Port_Meetings#Next_Meeting

[15:09] <hdu_hh> ericb2> thank you

[15:12] * hdu_hh doesn't think new devs are here today

[15:15] <ericb2> Next point ?

[15:15] <shaunmcdonald> 2. Latest Aqua news (aquavcl02 status, ...) / Work in progress

[15:15] <ericb2> Great news : aquavcl02 has been integrated

[15:15] <ericb2> now, build m225 using the correct flags is enough to have an aqua build

[15:16] * ericb2 modified the AquaBuild page in this purpose: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/AquaBuild

[15:16] <ericb2> any help is welcome

[15:18] <ericb2> was the Cocoa migration discussed in the previous meeting ?

[15:19] <shaunmcdonald> ericb2: there was a short quick overview of the cocoa migration by someone from sun

[15:20] <shaunmcdonald> Is the X11SDK still needed for the aqua build?

[15:20] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald: I have documented everything here : http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/AquaPortCocoa/Changelog

[15:20] <hdu_hh> this must have been PL, he's on vacation now

[15:20] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald: but the wiki page is outdated : I need help for the comments

[15:20] <shaunmcdonald> hdu_hh: he mentioned that

[15:21] <shaunmcdonald> ericb2: unfortunately when I done the clean install I included X11 in the install

[15:21] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald: sadly, yes. There is a madness in configure and that's not yet possible to pass the X11SDK from Xcode path yet :-/

[15:21] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald: just install the SDK

[15:21] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald: btw, I think we can try to enable Mozilla build for aqua, then macros will start to work

[15:22] <shaunmcdonald> I still use X11 for the GIMP sometimes

[15:22] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald: http://ftp.cusoo.org/MacOSX/Utilities/Intel/

[15:22] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald: not the last version -> works fine

[15:23] <shaunmcdonald> ericb2: mozilla is a pain to build on the mac since it is so old an version that is required for ooo

[15:23] * shaunmcdonald thinks it's time to move to a newer version of moz to make our life easier

[15:23] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald: we can use prebuild archives ?

[15:24] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald: then Mozilla is enabled, and xmlsec too `

[15:24] <shaunmcdonald> ericb2: that is an option

[15:24] <shaunmcdonald> but I've never managed to build them

[15:24] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald: I did since the begining of Intel

[15:24] <ericb2> hdu_hh: last aqua news ?

[15:25] <shaunmcdonald> I have built firefox a year or so back, but that was a newer version

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[15:25] <shaunmcdonald> ericb2: do your mozilla archive not work on both X11 and aqua builds of ooo?

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[15:25] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald: never tested, but IMHO, if the Xlib is only needed at buildtime, we can try

[15:26] <hdu_hh> debugging crashes, starting OTF support for all platforms, working on drawing layer primitive support, internationalization, revieweing patches...

[15:26] <ericb2> hdu_hh: uff.  :)

[15:27] <hdu_hh> mostly crossplattform stuff, except the crashes

[15:28] <shaunmcdonald> ericb2: I'm sure that when I done aqua builds the only change I done compared to X11 builds was to remove the --with-x from the configure line, thus including your mozilla libs

[15:28] <shaunmcdonald> hdu_hh: what is OTF support?

[15:28] <hdu_hh> shaunmcdonald ps opentype embedding into pdf and for printing

[15:29] <ericb2> hdu_hh: wow great :)

[15:29] <shaunmcdonald> hdu_hh: 8)

[15:29] <ericb2> I'll try to add the infos I have about aquavcl03

[15:29] <hdu_hh> we'll also have to change Writer etc for other Latin CTL e.g. Zapfino

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[15:30] <ericb2> since aquavcl02 is integrated, aquavcl03 is started. The objective is Cocoa migration

[15:30] <ericb2> for event loop, frames, event windowing, strings , menus and more I forgot

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[15:31] <ericb2> the concerned modules are ( at this time) : vcl, solenv, and instsetoo_native

[15:31] <ericb2> mainly vcl uses Objective C++ flags

[15:32] <ericb2> and if you want to add a module ( e.g. lingucomponent for native spellchecker), this is described on the wiki page I gave the link above

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[15:33] <ericb2> work in progress are: drag and drop ( tino), native spellchecker (michael), macaddress book integration (florian), Aqua controls (ismael), and me, for a lot lof little things or bugs

[15:34] <ericb2> s/work in progress/other work in progress/

[15:34] <ericb2> hdu_hh: pl and you are doing most of the work

[15:34] <hdu_hh> everything counts

[15:35] <ericb2> that's all what I have for today

[15:35] <ericb2> hdu_hh: Sure. Missing; I'll learn -seriously- english and german starting end september ;)

[15:36] <ericb2> Next point ?

[15:36] <hdu_hh> ericb2> really? do you want to understand the comments in the old code? :-)

[15:37] <ericb2> hdu_hh: I have lost a very good german since I don't speak often, and my english is too bad: I want to progress :)

[15:37] <ericb2> hdu_hh: sice the time I scheduled, I'll do this year

[15:37] <ericb2> since

[15:38] <ericb2> Next point is 3. Top 5 of issues before Alpha ( OOoCon 2007 )

[15:38] <hdu_hh> I see. Regarding reading old german comments: even we native speakers understand many of them unless we reverse engineer the code...

[15:39] <hdu_hh> understand -> don"t understand

[15:40] <ericb2> hdu_hh: document, document document ... ( Steve Ballmer like ) ;)

[15:41] <hdu_hh> ericb2: do you already have a top-x issue list?

[15:41] <ericb2> hdu_hh: I have

[15:41] <ericb2> Like for first development snapshot, I propose a Top 5 of issues ( or Top 10 if needed ) before alpha

[15:42] <hdu_hh> so you"re suggesting to fix them in aquavcl03 and then close the CWS?

[15:42] <hdu_hh> and continue with aquavcl04?

[15:42] <ericb2> hdu_hh: I'd prefer see a new cws

[15:42] <ericb2> hdu_hh: and provide Carbon version

[15:43] <hdu_hh> ericb2: ok. The new CWS based on Carbon?

[15:43] <ericb2> hdu_hh: exactly : m225 + fixes

[15:43] <hdu_hh> ah, I see..

[15:44] <ericb2> hdu_hh: aquavcl03 will integrate them progressively after resync

[15:44] <ericb2> hdu_hh: no matter if the alpha version is not an exact release, but just an exact milestone

[15:44] <shaunmcdonald> ericb2: aquavcl03 is for cocoa migration

[15:44] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald: indeed

[15:45] <shaunmcdonald> ericb2: so the m225 + fixes would be aquavcl04?

[15:45] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald: yes, or macalpha or whatever :)

[15:45] <hdu_hh> or carbonfixes...

[15:46] <ericb2> hdu_hh: yes :)

[15:46] <shaunmcdonald> so what is to go inside this CWS?

[15:47] <ericb2> first issue is black frame: fixed in aquavcl03 -> just a backport imho

[15:47] <ericb2> second issue to be fixed: bad scrollbar behaviour ( issue 77549 )

[15:47] <shaunmcdonald> doesn't that cause resync issues?

[15:47] <IZBot> porting DEFECT STARTED P3 Scrollbar - vcl control areas not correctly superposed with aqua areas on scrollbar http:// qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=77549

[15:48] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald: if we add the changes both in aquavcl03 and Carbonfixes, it should be ok

[15:48] <hdu_hh> shaunmcdonald: maybe some easy merge conflicts, but nothing special

[15:48] <shaunmcdonald> hdu_hh: ok

[15:49] <shaunmcdonald> as long as someone is happy with them

[15:49] <ericb2> other issues:

[15:49] <ericb2> listboxes not drawn correctly ( m225 Aqua ) -> issue 80704

[15:49] <IZBot> porting DEFECT NEW P3 listboxes not drawn correctly ( m225 Aqua ) http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=80704

[15:49] <hdu_hh> a trick to reduce conflicts: use cvs update -j -j to move fixes to other CWS

[15:49] <ericb2> combo boxes not drawn correctly -> issue 80701

[15:49] <IZBot> porting DEFECT NEW P3 combo boxes not drawn correctly http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=80701

[15:49] <ericb2> hdu_hh: thanks :)

[15:50] <ericb2> popup menus not drawn correctly when scrolling : the baseline is missing when scrolling down

[15:51] * ericb2 forgot the issue number

[15:51] <hdu_hh> and don"t forget the -kk option when joining fixes

[15:52] <ericb2> important issue : drag and drop ( issue 79620 )

[15:52] <IZBot> porting TASK STARTED P3 Implement Drag&Drop for OOo on Mac OS X http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=79620

[15:53] <ericb2> if you see other issues, please complete

[15:53] <hdu_hh> ericb2: is there already a link from the Aquabuild wiki to the top-X list?

[15:53] <ericb2> hdu_hh: not yet

[15:54] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald , hdu_hh: I think we will have to add something on mac website too

[15:54] <ericb2> + a post on mac@porting list

[15:54] <ericb2> to advertise people on vacation

[15:54] <shaunmcdonald> ericb2: about the top 5?

[15:55] <shaunmcdonald> ericb2: that would make a good news item

[15:55] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald: yes: Top 5 before alpha

[15:55] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald: sure