Modularization/IRCLOGS/20091215.log

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Conversation with #ooom12n at 2009年12月15日 星期二 15时44分19秒 on _ch_@irc.ubuntu.com (irc)
(16时01分28秒) liutao: /+o _ch_
(16时01分33秒) #ooom12n: 由 liutao 管理(+o _ch_ )
(16时01分45秒) kr [n=Kay@nat/sun/x-zejaoaxxdptzdxqh] 进入了聊天室。
(16时01分58秒) liutao: Morning Kr
(16时02分09秒) kr: good afternoo liutao
(16时02分11秒) #ooom12n: 由 liutao 管理(+o kr )
(16时02分33秒) _ch_: Good morning Kay , and Good afternoon Liutao.
(16时02分43秒) kr: good afternoon cynthia
(16时02分49秒) liutao: _ch_:good afternoon
(16时03分05秒) is_ [n=is@nat/sun/x-lsjeycxidflmiyde] 进入了聊天室。
(16时03分20秒) is_: Good morning and good afternoon and good evening
(16时03分27秒) liutao: good afternoon ingo
(16时03分35秒) #ooom12n: 由 liutao 管理(+o is_ )
(16时03分45秒) _ch_: Hi , Ingo. :)
(16时06分54秒) is_: Does anybody know, if xiuzhi still takes part at our meeting.
(16时08分31秒) liutao: is_:He is very busy for him private business,I also don't know what.
(16时09分50秒) is_: Ah, I see. Do we have an agenda for today? Or something to discuss about extensions or the build helper?
(16时10分16秒) _ch_: kr: After received your mail, I tried to change the name of my extension, and added it into the installed OOo on Windows. it works.
(16时10分39秒) _ch_: is_: I am trying to build on windows, and check if it works then.
(16时10分49秒) kr: _ch_: yes, I downloaded it, unpacked it, and it did immediately work :)
(16时11分32秒) is_: _ch_: Do you also want to bundle your extension with the installation set? We call this "bundled" extensions.
(16时12分37秒) is_: _ch_: In this case there are some things to consider. For example, each extension has to be included into its own unix package with the correct install and uninstall scripts.
(16时15分17秒) kr: _ch_: Isn't that what you want? Or is it more like to put the extension into a/the repository?
(16时17分27秒) kr: comparing again to Linux kernel, we see that there you have the possibility, to build a part (e.g. a driver), either statically linked, as a module, or not at all
(16时17分47秒) _ch_: is_: yes, I think I'd like to put it configurable with package thing.
(16时20分15秒) is_: _ch_: In this case you should read this documentation: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions_Integration_into_Installation_Set
(16时20分55秒) _ch_: is_: OK. thank you. :D
(16时21分16秒) is_: Each extension has to be an own module in scp2. For Unixes it is then additionally necessary to define this scp modules as packages. And thats it.
(16时22分01秒) kr: just something different, there some problems with the mailing lists, seemed that members got lost, this was also the reason for some of you not getting mail, including myself ;)
(16时22分44秒) kr: I updated the memberships again, so anybody not getting mails (I did send some testmails last week), please verify
(16时23分05秒) _ch_: is_: Do you think it is necessary to make such little extension be a package?
(16时24分03秒) _ch_: kr: I have received the mail with topic: test3
(16时25分39秒) kr: regarding extensions and packages, it seems that we need to become more precise of where we are heading
(16时25分46秒) _ch_: is_: I have tried to create a new .pre file in scp2/source/xslt/, for my docbook, hope it works
(16时25分51秒) _ch_: ;D
(16时26分12秒) is_: _ch_: If you want to change the installation set with your extension and if you want, that every user gets it, you have to make a "bundled" extension. Otherwise you can offer it for downloading. The size is not important.
(16时27分35秒) _ch_: is_: "bundled" extension? do you have more detail
(16时27分42秒) is_: _ch_: A new .pre file? You mean a new scp file, dont you?
(16时28分11秒) _ch_: is_: yes. :)
(16时28分34秒) is_: _ch_: "Bundled" extension means, it is bundled and delivered with the installation set, so that it is installed for all users during the installation process.
(16时30分07秒) _ch_: is_: I get it. so with setting: Default = YES; in the scp2, the extension will be installed , then?
(16时31分10秒) _ch_: is_: or what else shall I do, then?
(16时31分48秒) is_: _ch_: Default = YES; means for all modules in scp2, that this module is installed, if the user does not deselect it. You can also set Default=No; but in this case the user has to select this module in the customized installation.
(16时33分11秒) Gallomimia: hmm good show
(16时34分08秒) _ch_: kr: How do think about where we are heading? :)
(16时34分31秒) _ch_: is_: Yes, I got it.
(16时35分47秒) kr: _ch_: we may need to raise the question, how we want to distribute OOo respectively the extensions ...
(16时37分50秒) kr: _ch_: e.g. does everybody wants to build it optimally adapted to her/his system, if so, is it helpful to separate the parts/components into extensions, or would such a person just leave them out ?
(16时38分29秒) kr: _ch_: what are your needs? may be you have some hints?
(16时41分48秒) Gallomimia: well i must miss tonight's meeting. best regards to you and your efforts this week
(16时42分02秒) Gallomimia: bye folks
(16时42分43秒) is_: Gallomimia: Good night for you :-)
(16时43分03秒) kr: Gallomimia: Sleep well :)
(16时43分16秒) liutao: Gallomimia:good night
(16时47分37秒) kr: anything else for today? any progress with the build wizard?
(16时48分49秒) liutao: kr:no progress with build wizard.I have nothing for today.
(16时49分11秒) kr: ok, I suggest to close the meeting for today
(16时49分18秒) liutao: OK
(16时49分22秒) is_: OK
(16时49分39秒) _ch_: kr: OK,
(16时49分56秒) kr: bye for now :)
(16时50分04秒) liutao: Byebye
(16时50分10秒) liutao: Have a nice day.
(16时50分12秒) is_: Good bye and have a nice week
(16时50分13秒) _ch_: bye, all :)
(16时50分38秒) is_ 离开了聊天室("Leaving")。
(16时50分43秒) liutao 离开了聊天室。
(16时50分45秒) kr 离开了聊天室(quit: "Ex-Chat")。

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