User talk:Kr

• Hi Kay, I will try to help on the uno wiki project. Can I just copy the udk: texts and organize it here? I also have several projects using OpenOffice and Delphi and I want to add all my articles and docs about Ole bridge for the huge Delphi/Pascal community here in Brazil. Do you have any suggestions how to start?

Hi Josir, I am unsure what you concretely mean with "udk: texts", if you are talking about the documentation etc. on the http://udk.openoffice.org pages, please go ahead. Regarding the OLE-bridge stuff etc., I suggest to add an Uno/OLE article, similar to Uno/Binary and Uno/Java etc., you may than want to add the OLE specific stuff there. API or Delphi related issues may better belong to their own (top level) namespaces, e.g. Delphi or Pascal respectively API. -- Kr 14:49, 1 September 2006 (CEST)

You guessed correctly about "udk: texts". I will start to convert some issues this week. About Delphi: I´ve created an Uno/Delphi article, but I will create Uno/OLE too. I understand that in terms of taxonomy, Uno/OLE view is better but for a Delphi (or Cobol, Fortran) developer perspective, Java and Delphi are in the same category and if I put an OLE category side by side Java, the developer can lost the path. Generally, to a new OOffice user, they don´t know that the Delphi interface is done using OLE. Believe it or not, newby wiki users don´t use the search option frequently: they try to follow the hierarchy. My intention is to be as much didactic as possible to captivate Delphi programmers to use OOffice. However, send your last word: whatever you decide, I will follow :) Josir 3, September 2006

Some weeks ago I created an "effort" page (Uno/Effort/Migrate_Documentation) for migrating the documentation from http://udk.openoffice.org to Uno, you may want to use it as a starting point. Regarding Uno/OLE vs. Uno/Delphi, having both is fine for me, and I believe you saying that newbies (and typically myself as well :-), tend to follow the hierarchy. Thanks for your support and looking forward to your contributions -- Kr 10:20, 4 September 2006 (CEST)

Duplicated category Tutorial / Tutorials

Hi Kay, came across that while separating Category:Uno:Tutorials you assigned Category:Tutorial to those pages. That duplicates the already existing Category:Tutorials (note plural 's'). I suggest to remove the new Category:Tutorial from the changed pages and make sure the pages are assigned to Category:Tutorials instead. --erAck 16:08, 23 November 2006 (CET)

Hi Eike, using independent categories e.g. for 'Uno' and 'Tutorial(s)' allows to create 'queries' with the Dynamic Page List extension. So, I did split 'Uno:<category>' to avoid the need to list various combinations for categories. Regarding the 'Tutorial' vs. 'Tutorials' categories I basically was too lazy (and also wanted to discuss this further) to consolidate these in the first place. Personally I think (and that is also what is somewhere mentioned in the wikipedia policies) that categories should be named in singular fashion, leading to a replacement of 'Tutorials' with 'Tutorial'. -- KR 16:33, 23 November 2006 (CET)

Well, it depends on ;-) If the category is a name or title or is topical it should be singular. All others, being more or less containers of articles, could (and IMHO should) be plural. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_%28categories%29#General_naming_conventions and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_%28categories%29#Special_conventions_for_lists_of_items and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categorical_index --erAck 17:24, 23 November 2006 (CET)

IMHO the discussion regarding singular vs. plural naming of categories boils down to the semantics of the category feature. Categories can either be containers, collecting articles of a type, or categories could be seen as labels, labeling articles of similar type. The former leads to plural naming while the latter implicates singular naming (e.g. this is a 'tutorial' vs. this belongs to the 'tutorials'). WRT using DPL for listing articles, I understand categories as labels, while in the classic wikimedia view, categories are more like containers. So, Eike, just tell me your preference and I am going to adapt all pages accordingly ;-) -- KR 10:06, 24 November 2006 (CET)

Ok, when seeing it as a label of course the singular form applies. I'm quite unbiased, both make sense. Anyway, would be nice to have it somehow consistent and easy to recognize. Taking a look at Special:Categories reveals no strong preference in either direction, though it seems the singular is used more often. So, Kay, please go ahead and singularize the tutorials  ;-) --erAck 14:35, 27 November 2006 (CET)

Done so far, what about splitting 'Basic:Tutorials' into two categories, 'Basic' and 'Tutorials' respectively 'Tutorial'. 'Basic' 'Tutorials' can than be listed with DPL2? I plan to at least split the 'Uno::<name>' categories. -- KR 13:52, 28 November 2006 (CET)

Your ODF@WWW post

Hi Kay,

I am a supporter and an admin/developer for both the OOo and VBox forum's. Clayton knows me well. I recently set up an Ubuntu JeOS LAMP for Frank Mehnert for the VBox forum itself. The core kit is a 90Mb 7-zip download. This includes a full LAMP stack. If you mail me at me userID at OpenOffice.org then I can exchange notes and URLs.

I had a look at the implementation and also have a few suggestions if you are interested. TerryE 14:02, 24 July 2008 (CEST)

Hi Terry, I am actually very interested in your support. What is your mail address? TerryE at OpenOffice.org ? -- KR 17:25, 24 July 2008 (CEST)