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We usually use 1 or 3.
 
We usually use 1 or 3.
User is not familiar with unit of point and difficult for find out this  
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User is not familiar with unit of point and difficult to find out this setting
 
so If we can put the number of character(fix text),It is more user friendly.
 
so If we can put the number of character(fix text),It is more user friendly.
  
 
2)''Affiliation'':<BR>
 
2)''Affiliation'':<BR>
 
We use Even inter-character spacing and double line layout(Character -> Asian Layout).
 
We use Even inter-character spacing and double line layout(Character -> Asian Layout).
It seems work fine in this case.(I putted a two full-space between "指定社員" and "執行役員社員".)
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It seems work fine in this case.(I putted a two full-space between "指定社員" and "執行役員社員")
  
 
3)''Name'':<BR>
 
3)''Name'':<BR>
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It is not easy to do.
 
It is not easy to do.
 
We hope to have fix text(set a spacing with number of character:MS-Word)
 
We hope to have fix text(set a spacing with number of character:MS-Word)
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4)''stamp place'':<BR>
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this is not about Even inter-character spacing.
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I would like to talk about [http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=105888 i105888 fenced character lost when I use fenced character function on ms-word]
  
 
*Other sample:
 
*Other sample:
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#Distributed for the line
 
#Distributed for the line
 
##High light the Line
 
##High light the Line
##Push the Distributed bottun
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##Push the Distributed icon on the tool bar.
 
##Distributed in the line.
 
##Distributed in the line.
 
#Distributed for the line(Fit Text)
 
#Distributed for the line(Fit Text)
 
##Select some character.
 
##Select some character.
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##Push the Distributed icon on the tool bar.
 
##Open the "Fit text property dialog"
 
##Open the "Fit text property dialog"
 
##Set the width by number of character.
 
##Set the width by number of character.

Revision as of 06:11, 25 November 2009


OpenOffice.org

Japanese user basically use the distributed text for title of document and title of table..etc. According to JIS, it call "Even inter-character spacing". Office software should be able to use Even inter-character spacing.

Even inter-character spacing: Text set with equal inter-character spacing between characters on a given line,
so that each line is aligned to the same line head and line end (see [Fig.7]).

Even inter-character space setting is used in books for unifying the length of table headings with Japanese text (see [Fig.8]). 
There are also examples (e.g. lists of names) in which parts of a person names receive inter-character spacing. 

[Fig.8]: Example of a table with inter-character spacing.
(note 1)	
Even inter-character spacing, including processing of jidori, is defined in JIS X 4051, sec. 4.18.1.


Writer

OpenOffice.org Writer is limited support the Even inter-character spacing furniture. It is not easy to use for Japanese user.

We use Even inter-character spacing for almost of the document especially use for table title and document title.

for example:
I made a sample paper. This is common business layout for Japanese.

Japanese text layout sample20091125.png

1)Title:
We use Even inter-character spacing in here.

We can select blow two way:

  1. put a full-space each character.
  2. set a spacing(Character -> Position -> spacing ).
  3. fix text(set a spacing with number of character:MS-Word)

We usually use 1 or 3. User is not familiar with unit of point and difficult to find out this setting so If we can put the number of character(fix text),It is more user friendly.

2)Affiliation:
We use Even inter-character spacing and double line layout(Character -> Asian Layout). It seems work fine in this case.(I putted a two full-space between "指定社員" and "執行役員社員")

3)Name:
We use Even inter-character spacing. It is not easy to do. We hope to have fix text(set a spacing with number of character:MS-Word)

4)stamp place:
this is not about Even inter-character spacing. I would like to talk about i105888 fenced character lost when I use fenced character function on ms-word

Customs go jp 2009104e.png

Situation on Writer

We can make this layout with blow.

  • limited case, we can use Paragraph -> alignment -> Justified/Last line/Justified
  • manually set the spacing with Character dialog ->Position tab select Spacing.
  • Type some space character.

Case of Microsoft Word

Microsoft Office have a two furniture for solver this problem.

  1. Distributed Paragraph(it seems same furniture on openoffice.org)
  2. Fit Text
  • behavior:
  1. Distributed for the line
    1. High light the Line
    2. Push the Distributed icon on the tool bar.
    3. Distributed in the line.
  2. Distributed for the line(Fit Text)
    1. Select some character.
    2. Push the Distributed icon on the tool bar.
    3. Open the "Fit text property dialog"
    4. Set the width by number of character.
    5. the character will be Distributed.

Fit text property dialog

Case of Other Office

Justsystem Ichitaro. one of famous software. ジャストシステムの日本語ワープロ一太郎においては、さらに次の設定を持つ。 段落属性-文字揃え:範囲指定した段落を左端・中央・右端・均等に配置する 段落属性-ジャスティフィケーション:行末を揃えるかどうか設定する。「変更しない」「欧文単語が含まれている行は設定しない」「する」「しない」という設定値を持つ 文字割付:均等割り付けに相当するが、きめ細かな設定ができる。


一太郎2006の文字割付

File:JS Ichitaro Distributed.png

Glossary of Microsoft Word

Distributed Paragraph 段落を均等割り付けします。
Fit Text: 文字の均等割り付け :
Distributed Paragraph 段落を均等割り付けします。
Apply Fit Text Property 文字列に均等割り付けを設定します。


Issues

Misc

Calc

OpenOffice.org calc does not have Distributed furniture. we use Distributed for all of the document especially for financial document.


Format Cell

  • Horizontal
    • OpenOffice.org : Default setting "Default(left)"
    • MS Excel:Default setting "Default(left)"
    • Justsystem Sanshiro:Default setting "Farrow the sheet setting(left)"

Cell Format Calc Horizontal.png Cell Format Excel Horizontal.png Cell Format Sanshiro-1.png Cell Format Sanshiro-2.png

feature feature(japanese) Calc MS-Excel(japanese version) Comment
Default 標準 X X No problem
Left X X No problem
Center 中央 X X No problem
Right X X No problem
Justfied 両揃え - X Issue:does not work correctly for Asian Character,work fine for English Character.
Filled 塗り潰し/繰り返し X X No problem
Center Across Selection 選択範囲内で中央 - X No problem :OpenOffice.org does not have this feature.but if import the excel file,it change to merge cell. It seems no problem.
Distributed 均等割り付け - X Issue:OpenOffice.org does not have this feature.if import the excel file,it change to Justified. there is big difference between Justified and Distributed.


  • Vertical
    • OpenOffice.org : Default setting "Default(bottom)"
    • MS Excel:Default setting "Middle"
    • Justsystem Sanshiro:Default setting "Farrow the sheet setting(bottom)"

Cell Format Calc Vertical.png Cell Format Excel Vertical.png Cell Format Sanshiro-1.png Cell Format Sanshiro-2.png

feature feature(japanese) Calc MS-Excel(japanese version) Comment
Default 標準 X - MS-Excel does not have this.
Top X X No problem
Middle 中央 X X No problem/
bottom X X No problem
Justfied 両揃え - X OpenOffice.org does not have this feature.
Distributed 均等割り付け - X OpenOffice.org does not have this feature.

for what,we use it and Sample of user scenario

  • Justfied
  • Distributed

Sample files

listed sample for cell formatting

Horizontal

  • Justfied

Spreadsheet Format H Justfied.png

Media:Sample_Spreadsheet_Format_H_Justfied.xls

  • Center Across Selection

Spreadsheet Format H CAS.png

Media:Sample_Spreadsheet_Format_H_CAS.xls

  • Distributed

Spreadsheet Format H Distributed.png

Media:Sample_Spreadsheet_Format_H_Distributed.xls

Vertical

  • Justfied

Spreadsheet Format V Justfied.png

Media:Sample_Spreadsheet_Format_V_Justfied.xls

  • Distributed

Spreadsheet Format V Distributed.png

Media:Sample_Spreadsheet_Format_V_Distributed.xls

Glossary from Microsoft 2003

Above TDB Windows Excel
2003
Below TXT Windows Excel
2003
Left TXT Windows Excel
2003
Right TXT Windows Excel
2003
Outside End 外部 TXT Windows Excel
2003
Inside End 内部外側 TXT Windows Excel
2003
Center 中央 TXT Windows Excel
2003
Best Fit 自動 TXT Windows Excel
2003
Left 左詰め TXT Windows Excel
2003
Right 右詰め LBX Windows Excel
2003
Fill 繰り返し LBX Windows Excel
2003
Justify 両端揃え LBX Windows Excel
2003
Center Across Selection 選択範囲内で中央 LBX Windows Excel
2003
Top 上詰め LBX Windows Excel
2003
Center 中央揃え LBX Windows Excel
2003
Bottom 下詰め LBX Windows Excel
2003
Distributed 均等割り付け TXT Windows Excel
2003
Vary colors by slice V 要素を塗り分ける V TXT Windows Excel
2003
Default 標準 BUT Windows Excel
2003

Misc

最近では、表計算ソフトをワードプロセッサーのように利用したいユーザーも増えている。均等割
付は、特定の幅に文字間隔を広げて均等に配置する書式設定である。タイトルなどで多く用いられ
る。Excelでは、図のようにセルに均等割付できる。これには、「セルの書式設定」ダイアログの配
置タブにある「文字の配置」-「横位置」欄で「均等割り付け(インデント)」を選択すると、文字
列がセルの枠内いっぱいに広がる書式となる。Calcでも「セルの書式設定」と同等の「セルのフォー
マット」ダイアログがあり、配置タブの「文章の配置」-「横に」欄の選択肢に「均等割り付け」を
設ければよいことになる。

Graphic application(Impress/Draw)

Misc

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