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I went after sites that weren't competitors, except maybe in terms of band width.
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I have said in the past that the step from landing to download at OOo for Naive End User (NEUbees?) is a big one, especially if that user is on dialup, demonstrated by the marketing campaigns that pay out considerably for click throughs without substantial increase in Downloads... Dialup connection is still common and still in the majority globally.  So I went looking at sites that required the NEUbee to commit to a substantial download.
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*The obvious one is [http://www.adobe.com Adobe] for Acrobat reader and Shockwave
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*[http://audacity.sourceforge.net Audacity Open Source Sound Editor]
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*[http://www.gimp.org the Gimp]
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*[http://www.irfanview.com Irfanview Graphics Viewer]
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*[http://www.abiword.org Abiword]
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*[http://www.inkscape.org Inkscape OpenSource illustration software]
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*[http://www.real.com Real Player]
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Do they do a better job?  Good question.  Are they successful, demonstrably so, but then so is OOo, 100 million plus downloads certainly can't be called a failure.
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Can we do it better?  Most definitely. Are any of these sites doing it better?  If numbers are the measure then the Acrobat download site is the winner by a country mile probably followed by Irfanview.
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Does this reveal anything? Possibly only that our problems are not unique to us. 
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[[User:Yorick|Yorick]] 12:27, 25 November 2007 (CET)

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Sites We Like (that possibly do a better job)

I'm just wondering if we could possibly start a list of sites we think are better in terms of dealing with the typical "end user".

Here's some open source sites I think do a pretty good job with dealing with end-users:

openSuse has very recently gone over to this VERY simple format

This is a VERY user-centric site with many other links going elsewhere

OK, WAY too wordy, probably, but this is a developer system, not a typical end-user application. Still the general layout has some merit I think

OK, I'm done for now. :)

I agree. It need not be just competitors, although the IBM competitors criteria can work for all sites. I would like to suggest some Corporate sites that probably have had some of the best professional designers working on them. I will be back with a list of links that caught *my* eye.

Regards Bill Case

Hi;

Reviewed some sites. See what you think.

Thursday, November 08 2007

http://cssbeauty.com/ sample sites with comments (css based web sites)

http://www.stylegala.com/archive/mozilla_store.htm Sample sites with comments and ratings

http://bestwebgallery.com/ Lots of good samples, but no comment or rating, 540 designs listed

http://www.mezzoblue.com/zengarden/alldesigns/page2/ More good samples, 203 designs listed

N. B.
http://www.webbyawards.com/ http://www.webbyawards.com/webbys/current.php?season=11 Irony -- Great sample/winning sites, well worth looking at -- but the webby site itself is confusing. Scroll down for categories.

Check out:

  • Best Home/Welcome Page
  • Best Navigation/Structure
  • Best Copy/Writing
  • Best Practices
  • Charitable Organizations Nonprofit

Some of these sites may be too resource intensive (flash, sound etc) but they contain great ideas that my be incorporated at a simpler level.

Of them all, I personally liked the 2007 IKEA BEST NAVIGATION/STRUCTURE
http://demo.fb.se/e/ikea/dreamkitchen/site/default.html .

What seems to work the best, particularly on a home page, seems to be "smiling people". No surprise there.

Addendum: I have read criticism of the Webby Awards. Some people would have chosen different winners or claim not all the best were nominated. Be that as it may, for our, OOo, purposes there isn't a better place to start reviewing what can be done.

Of course, start by checking:

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx

http://symphony.lotus.com/software/lotus/symphony/home.jspa

Be honest, Microsoft's site is the better of the two.

http://docs.google.com/
http://www.google.com/google-d-s/tour1.html

Googles site is too simple in my view, although they have the advantage of letting the user immediately start creating a document.

Regards Bill Case

More download sites

I went after sites that weren't competitors, except maybe in terms of band width.

I have said in the past that the step from landing to download at OOo for Naive End User (NEUbees?) is a big one, especially if that user is on dialup, demonstrated by the marketing campaigns that pay out considerably for click throughs without substantial increase in Downloads... Dialup connection is still common and still in the majority globally. So I went looking at sites that required the NEUbee to commit to a substantial download.

Do they do a better job? Good question. Are they successful, demonstrably so, but then so is OOo, 100 million plus downloads certainly can't be called a failure. Can we do it better? Most definitely. Are any of these sites doing it better? If numbers are the measure then the Acrobat download site is the winner by a country mile probably followed by Irfanview.

Does this reveal anything? Possibly only that our problems are not unique to us.

Yorick 12:27, 25 November 2007 (CET)

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