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These are the IRC minutes of the third Automation meeting on IRC found place at Monday 16th July

        • BEGINNE LOGBUCH UM Mon Jul 23 09:01:26 2007

Can the waits be tuned in / shortened? (smo)

Adding new scripts to first and topten (sanity check) (smo)

Jul 23 09:02:04 sunrayjogi	Welcome to the 3rd IRC meeting of the automated GUI testing project
Jul 23 09:02:36 skotti	.
Jul 23 09:02:42 sunrayjogi	Hi skotti 
Jul 23 09:03:02 sunrayjogi	anybody else online?
Jul 23 09:03:33 xHDE	Hi
Jul 23 09:03:48 wolframg	Hi
Jul 23 09:04:15 sunrayjogi	Well I want to change the agenda first and remove the first two items.
Jul 23 09:04:19 sunrayjogi	1. Can the waits be tuned in / shortened? (smo)
Jul 23 09:04:26 sunrayjogi	2. Adding new scripts to first and topten (sanity check) (smo)
Jul 23 09:04:38 sunrayjogi	raeason: smo is not here
Jul 23 09:04:53 sunrayjogi	Please give me a +1 or a -1 for your votes to change the agenda
Jul 23 09:05:00 xHDE	+1
Jul 23 09:05:00 sunrayjogi	+1
Jul 23 09:05:01 skotti	+1
Jul 23 09:05:22 *	sunrayjogi ......3....
Jul 23 09:05:26 *	sunrayjogi ......2....
Jul 23 09:05:27 wolframg	+1
Jul 23 09:05:31 *	sunrayjogi ......1....

Sequence of this meeting (read mail thread in qa-dev mailing alias before!) (JSI)

Jul 23 09:05:58 sunrayjogi	Okay, let's start with the "Sequence of this meeting (read mail thread in qa-dev mailing alias before!) "
Jul 23 09:06:44 *	artietee (n=arthur@cp431174-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl) hat #qa.openoffice.org betreten
Jul 23 09:07:02 sunrayjogi	From my point of view I won't do an IRC meeting every week here as moderator. If there is another one who wants to use the odd weeks okay but not me.
Jul 23 09:07:50 sunrayjogi	any others here who want to do that job?
Jul 23 09:08:27 skotti	sunrayjogi: Many topics can easily be handled "on the fly" in this channel without a requirement for a meeting every week.
Jul 23 09:08:42 *	sunrayjogi suggests that the IRC meeting will be bi-weekly in every even week.
Jul 23 09:08:52 sunrayjogi	skotti:  agree
Jul 23 09:08:59 wolframg	agree
Jul 23 09:09:08 skotti	sunrayjogi: I frequence of two weeks seems enough after having watched this channel for some time
Jul 23 09:09:11 xHDE	disagree
Jul 23 09:09:12 sunrayjogi	wolframg:  to what?
Jul 23 09:09:20 sunrayjogi	xHDE:  to what?
Jul 23 09:09:27 wolframg	Meeting every two weeks, sorry.
Jul 23 09:09:52 sunrayjogi	wolframg:  we will decide it later. Would be great to know if there are concerns....
Jul 23 09:10:17 xHDE	sunrayjogi: I agree to hold a meeting every 2 weeks but I disagree to discuss important topics only "on-the-fly"
Jul 23 09:10:18 skotti	sunrayjogi: We can always return to a one-week schedule on short notice.
Jul 23 09:10:31 sunrayjogi	xHDE:  yes, 'many' =! 'important'
Jul 23 09:11:05 skotti	xHDE: Depends on the level of importance. I would certainly not encourage deciding to write test in Java from tomorrow on without a meeting ;-)
Jul 23 09:11:35 sunrayjogi	skotti:  I agree on xHDE that IMPORTANT items has to discuss in IRC meetings or if there is a need for a fast decision in the mailing-alias. The daily work can be handled here.
Jul 23 09:11:46 skotti	sunrayjogi: +1
Jul 23 09:12:15 sunrayjogi	Any other suggestions, concerns about that topic?
Jul 23 09:12:49 xHDE	sunrayjogi: And if there was an important thing discussed it should be communicated to all...
Jul 23 09:13:17 xHDE	+1 for a meeting every 2 weeks
Jul 23 09:13:22 *	sunrayjogi [UPDATED] suggests that the IRC meeting will be bi-weekly in every even week. Important issues can be handled in the mailing-alias or in the bi-weekly IRC meetings.
Jul 23 09:13:42 sunrayjogi	xHDE:  just a moment, please. We decide soon
Jul 23 09:15:17 sunrayjogi	okay - please vote with +1 (pro) or -1 (contra) my suggestion
Jul 23 09:15:19 sunrayjogi	+1
Jul 23 09:15:39 *	msc_sun (i=msc@nat/sun/x-5615ca51d8d60885) hat #qa.openoffice.org betreten
Jul 23 09:15:50 skotti	+1
Jul 23 09:15:53 wolframg	+1
Jul 23 09:16:11 *	sunrayjogi ......3....
Jul 23 09:16:12 xHDE	+1 (if 'Important issues can be handled...' is changed to 'Important issues shall be handled..' :-))
Jul 23 09:16:13 msc_sun	+1
Jul 23 09:16:56 *	sunrayjogi [UPDATED 2] suggests that the IRC meeting will be bi-weekly in every even week. Important issues should be handled in the mailing-alias or in the bi-weekly IRC meetings.
Jul 23 09:17:07 *	sunrayjogi ......2....
Jul 23 09:17:22 *	sunrayjogi ......1....

Time of this meeting (read mail thread in qa-dev mailing alias before!) (JSI)

Jul 23 09:17:33 sunrayjogi	Next item: Time of this meeting (read mail thread in qa-dev mailing alias before!) (JSI)
Jul 23 09:18:36 sunrayjogi	As we all can see: No chinese, japanese people here - I suggest to shift the meeting back to 11h MESZ, 9 UTC or 14h MESZ, 12h UTC to get the US guys involved.
Jul 23 09:18:50 sunrayjogi	comments, other suggestions
Jul 23 09:20:06 skotti	sunrayjogi: As we do not have any people from widely different timezone in this channel yet, it appears as if we have the choice to do as we like.
Jul 23 09:20:28 sunrayjogi	skotti:  You have read the mailing alias?
Jul 23 09:20:54 skotti	sunrayjogi: Yes. They can get out of bed a little earlier ;-)
Jul 23 09:21:26 sunrayjogi	skotti:  The Mac porting group is using 14h MESZ to get the most people involved which really working on that project. I would do the same. There was a request from Asia which has not been valid. Now we have a request from the US...
Jul 23 09:21:44 sunrayjogi	has -> was
Jul 23 09:22:06 skotti	sunrayjogi: 14:00 is nice. And it would be cool to get some more people into this meeting.
Jul 23 09:22:37 sunrayjogi	skotti:  from my point of view not "some" better the ones who want to help in this project.
Jul 23 09:22:59 skotti	+1
Jul 23 09:23:02 sunrayjogi	SUGGESTION I: 11h MESZ, 9 UTC
Jul 23 09:23:12 sunrayjogi	SUGGESTION II: 14h MESZ, 12 UTC
Jul 23 09:23:34 sunrayjogi	Please vote with 0 (equal), I or II for the suggestions made.
Jul 23 09:23:44 sunrayjogi	II
Jul 23 09:23:45 msc_sun	I
Jul 23 09:24:00 skotti	II
Jul 23 09:24:02 wolframg	I
Jul 23 09:24:17 xHDE	I
Jul 23 09:24:30 *	sunrayjogi ......3....
Jul 23 09:24:36 *	sunrayjogi ......2....
Jul 23 09:24:40 *	sunrayjogi ......1....
Jul 23 09:24:50 sunrayjogi	I will announce 11h MESZ , 9 UTC (again)
Jul 23 09:25:07 sunrayjogi	Thank you for your attention. Meeting is being closed.
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