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This page is part of the CWS printerpullpages. It is meant for the string reviews and discussions concerning the translation.

2009-08-13 String Review by Liz

A string review of the English text has been made by Liz - thanks a lot! Additional proposals have been added to improve the meaning of several string. The current intermediate result has to be reviewed again. Until then, there won't be any updated mockup for "Current Design Mockup".


Source Current Status Proposal Questions and Replies
Liz Kept Proposal (optional) to change "Printer Details" to "Details"
  • Will be kept unchanged, since the group title is a bit far away - so this won't hurt (hopefully). --ChristophNoack 20:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Liz Undecided The sub-group name "Thereof print" seems to be an issue because of the mixture of nouns and verbs. Liz proposed "Withing the print range, print:".
  • @Liz: What about "Within range" (shorter), because then we would be able to re-add the group line? --ChristophNoack 20:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC); EM->CN: I think that will work esp if it is visually clear that it is a subgroup of the part above it. (Aug 26)
Liz Accepted Proposal to change "Print Page Preview" to "Preview"
  • Funnily, there there is nothing like a "Print Page Preview" in my the wiki secton "Definitions". So I'll change that to "Print Preview" (wiki pages will get updated, too). --ChristophNoack 20:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Liz Undecided Proposal to change the group name "Print", since it is inconsistent with the rest of the dialog (verb vs. nouns). And it seems to be ambigious.
  • @Liz: How about "Printout", since "Contents" is already used elsewhere... --ChristophNoack 20:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC); EM->CN: "Printout" is at least a noun so it is better, but something still is not perfect. It is only for hard copy (e.g. not print to file) so is this okay or not? Anyone else with an opinion? (Aug26)
Liz Accepted Proposal to change button caption "Print to file..." to "Print to File...".
Liz Undecided Proposal to remove "right pages / left pages" from "Include, because it won't work for RTL text direction.
  • Regina noticed that, too (some days before). Personally I would like to make "front sides / back sides" a bit more self explaining. @Liz: How about "Front sides / odd pages" and "Back sides / even pages" (or is it required to say e.g. "odd-numbered")? --ChristophNoack 20:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC); em->CN: Best would be "Front sides (odd-numbered pages)" and "Back sides (even-numbered pages)" (Aug 26)
Christoph New Change "Add blank pages for page breaks" to "Add blank pages for page breaks automatically". From my point it isn't clear that only some page breaks are affected. Originally I had something like "for certain page breaks" which isn't clear enough.
  • @Liz: Does the added "automatically" improve the understandability? --ChristophNoack 20:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC); EM->CN: Not really. We need to think this through more. (Aug 26)
Christoph, Jörg New Writer: Added/changed drop-down entries for Notes, since there was no proposal yet. The current proposals for "Notes" are:
  • None (document only)
  • Notes only
  • List at the end of document
  • List at end of page
  • @Liz: Okay? --ChristophNoack 20:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC); EM->CN: does "List at the end of document" make them into "end notes"? In both cases, you can't sometimes use the article and at other times not use it, so: List at the end of the document, List at the end of the page, but now it is really long. There is also the problem of "List" being ambiguous (N/V). I've got to think about this more to come up with a better solution. Maybe "move", or "place" or "put"? (Aug 26)
Regina, Christoph New Changed "Distribute on multiple pages" to "Distribute on multiple sheets", since we may better refer to "sheets" when thinking of physical paper sheets. A similar naming has been used on the "Page Layout" tab page. Unfortunately, this is different to the currently used string and also difficult to understand with regard to Calc (worksheet vs. paper sheet). And, in Impress there also is "Slides per page" for the handout printing. Personally, I'm fine with "...multiple pages" here, since we won't be able to provide a clean solution. Discussion on main printerpullpages talk page.
  • @Liz: What do you think? --ChristophNoack 20:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC); EM->CN: Maybe...Distribute on multiple sheets of paper (Aug 26)
Regina New Draw/Impress: Changed "Size: Tile pages" to "Size: Tile slides" for Impress. This has been a mistake.
  • Should be okay without an additional review. --ChristophNoack 20:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC) EM->CN: Yup, OK. (Aug 26)
Christoph New Writer: Changed option "Graphics and diagrams" to "Pictures and drawings". "Pictures" improves consistency, the former "diagrams" has simply been wrong.
  • @Liz: Okay? --ChristophNoack 20:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC); EM->CN: good improvement (Aug 26)


The reviewed mockup including Liz' comments and additional markups to highlight the comments. Sorry for the quality, since I changed to a JPG to reduce its size.

2009-08-13 PrintDialog StringReview byLiz AddedMarkups.jpg

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Source Current Status Proposal Questions and Replies
Regina 15:03, 25 August 2009 (UTC) undecided On Writer, Tab "Options" there is the checkbox "Reverse page order". It should be "Reverse paper sheet order". Reasons: The option is needed for manual duplex printing and is not only applied to normal print but also to brochure printing. In the latter case one paper sheet carries pages from start and from the end of the document and you do not want to alter this order, but the order of the paper sheet stack. For example, you print the front of the paper sheets with pages 16/1 14/3 12/5 10/7 with face down. Then the top empty back sheet it that with 10/7. Thereon the pages 8/9 must be printed, but normal print order would print pages 2/15 next. Therefore you must reverse the paper sheet order either for the front print or for the back print. Questions and Replies
Regina 15:15, 25 August 2009 (UTC) undecided The module specific tab has the title " Calc", for example. I see no reason to put "" in that place. I thought that the whole dialog is that dialog, which is independent of the operating system and depends only on the vendor. Therefore I would expect "" or "StarSuite" for example in the title bar of the whole dialog to distinguish the dialog from dialogs provided by the operating system. Questions and Replies
Regina 15:33, 25 August 2009 (UTC) undecided On tab " Impress" and " Draw", section "Size". "Tile pages" is misleading because of the plural "pages". This feature repeats one slide/page on the paper sheet, if the slide/page is smaller than the paper sheet. The plural leads to the wrong assumption, the feature would do a kind of N-up, filling the paper sheet with slide/page 1,2,... till it is full. Proposal "For small slide/page tile paper sheet with repeated slide/page." or shorter "Tile paper sheet with repeated slide/page". In addition be careful to distinguish slide/page for Impress/Draw. Questions and Replies


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