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− | * | + | * @Liz: Okay? --[[User:ChristophNoack|ChristophNoack]] 20:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC) |
* EM->CN: does "List at the end of document" make them into "end notes"? In both cases, you can't sometimes use the article and at other times not use it, so: List at the end of the document, List at the end of the page, but now it is really long. There is also the problem of "List" being ambiguous (N/V). I've got to think about this more to come up with a better solution. Maybe "move", or "place" or "put"? (Aug 26) | * EM->CN: does "List at the end of document" make them into "end notes"? In both cases, you can't sometimes use the article and at other times not use it, so: List at the end of the document, List at the end of the page, but now it is really long. There is also the problem of "List" being ambiguous (N/V). I've got to think about this more to come up with a better solution. Maybe "move", or "place" or "put"? (Aug 26) | ||
+ | * '''@Liz''': | ||
+ | ** Good point, no, there is no relation to "end notes" since it is some kind of meta data (reviewer notes) which are printed at the end of the document. The "end notes" are already part of the document. | ||
+ | ** If we decide to go for some "descriptive" entry, then "place ..." looks fine to me | ||
+ | ** By the way, there is also an issue for that created by jsk - but I cannot link to it, because the issue tracker is down. | ||
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| Changed "Distribute on multiple pages" to "Distribute on multiple sheets", since we may better refer to "sheets" when thinking of physical paper sheets. A similar naming has been used on the "Page Layout" tab page. Unfortunately, this is different to the currently used string and also difficult to understand with regard to Calc (worksheet vs. paper sheet). And, in Impress there also is "Slides per page" for the handout printing. Personally, I'm fine with "...multiple pages" here, since we won't be able to provide a clean solution. Discussion on main printerpullpages talk page. | | Changed "Distribute on multiple pages" to "Distribute on multiple sheets", since we may better refer to "sheets" when thinking of physical paper sheets. A similar naming has been used on the "Page Layout" tab page. Unfortunately, this is different to the currently used string and also difficult to understand with regard to Calc (worksheet vs. paper sheet). And, in Impress there also is "Slides per page" for the handout printing. Personally, I'm fine with "...multiple pages" here, since we won't be able to provide a clean solution. Discussion on main printerpullpages talk page. | ||
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− | * | + | * @Liz: What do you think? --[[User:ChristophNoack|ChristophNoack]] 20:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC) |
+ | * EM->CN: Maybe...Distribute on multiple sheets of paper (Aug 26) | ||
+ | * '''@Liz''': Is "Distribute on multiple paper sheets" sufficient? If yes, then we could use "paper sheets" in other places, too. | ||
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| Draw/Impress: Changed "Size: Tile pages" to "Size: Tile slides" for Impress. This has been a mistake. | | Draw/Impress: Changed "Size: Tile pages" to "Size: Tile slides" for Impress. This has been a mistake. | ||
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− | * Should be okay without an additional review. --[[User:ChristophNoack|ChristophNoack]] 20:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC) EM->CN: Yup, OK. (Aug 26) | + | * Should be okay without an additional review. --[[User:ChristophNoack|ChristophNoack]] 20:53, 24 August 2009 (UTC) |
+ | * EM->CN: Yup, OK. (Aug 26) | ||
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| On tab "Openoffice.org Impress" and "Openoffice.org Draw", section "Size". "Tile pages" is misleading because of the plural "pages". This feature repeats one slide/page on the paper sheet, if the slide/page is smaller than the paper sheet. The plural leads to the wrong assumption, the feature would do a kind of N-up, filling the paper sheet with slide/page 1,2,... till it is full. Proposal "For small slide/page tile paper sheet with repeated slide/page." or shorter "Tile paper sheet with repeated slide/page". In addition be careful to distinguish slide/page for Impress/Draw. | | On tab "Openoffice.org Impress" and "Openoffice.org Draw", section "Size". "Tile pages" is misleading because of the plural "pages". This feature repeats one slide/page on the paper sheet, if the slide/page is smaller than the paper sheet. The plural leads to the wrong assumption, the feature would do a kind of N-up, filling the paper sheet with slide/page 1,2,... till it is full. Proposal "For small slide/page tile paper sheet with repeated slide/page." or shorter "Tile paper sheet with repeated slide/page". In addition be careful to distinguish slide/page for Impress/Draw. | ||
− | | * '''@Regina''': Well observed :-) | + | | |
+ | * '''@Regina''': Well observed :-) Thank you! --[[User:ChristophNoack|ChristophNoack]] 16:42, 30 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
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Revision as of 22:00, 30 August 2009
This page is part of the CWS printerpullpages. It is meant for the string reviews and discussions concerning the translation.
Contents
2009-08-25 String Review by Sophie (French Translation)
Sophie - one of the language team representatives - had been asked to have a look on the strings concerning potential translation issues. Although Philipp implemented basic layouting capabilities for the dialog, the given information is very valuable. Thank you so much, Sophie!
Comment by Sophie: I based my feedback on the current design mockup and Liz comments. Please keep in mind that it's based on FR strings which are not the longest (I think pt-BR is longer)
- Writer:
- General Tab : [Print to file...] button, FR language will need 25 characters to display the complete string, so the button has to be quite large
- Page Layout Tab : [Pages per sheet] string, FR language will need 18 characters to display the string, I fear that the space is to short to display the last characters (this is also on the other module Page Layout Tab).
- Impress / Draw: if Brochure printing is enabled, there is this string displayed at the bottom of the dialog: [Note: Disable brochure printing to change the size setting.] This string will request 77 characters in French and may be 2 rows.
- Calc: Page Layout Tab : [Left to right, then down] drop down list, this string will take 37 characters in French. But it should not be an issue as the drop down list is quite large.
2009-08-13 String Review by Liz (Formulation)
A string review of the English text has been made by Liz - thanks a lot! Additional proposals have been added to improve the meaning of several string. The current intermediate result has to be reviewed again. Until then, there won't be any updated mockup for "Current Design Mockup".
Discussion
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Liz | Kept | Proposal (optional) to change "Printer Details" to "Details" |
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Liz | Undecided | The sub-group name "Thereof print" seems to be an issue because of the mixture of nouns and verbs. Liz proposed "Withing the print range, print:". |
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Liz | Accepted | Proposal to change "Print Page Preview" to "Preview" |
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Liz | Undecided | Proposal to change the group name "Print", since it is inconsistent with the rest of the dialog (verb vs. nouns). And it seems to be ambigious. |
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Liz | Accepted | Proposal to change button caption "Print to file..." to "Print to File...". |
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Liz | Undecided | Proposal to remove "right pages / left pages" from "Include, because it won't work for RTL text direction. |
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Mockup
The reviewed mockup including Liz' comments and additional markups to highlight the comments. Sorry for the quality, since I changed to a JPG to reduce its size.
String Review by the Community (Formulation)
Discussion
Everybody can join the discussion below...
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Christoph | New | Change "Add blank pages for page breaks" to "Add blank pages for page breaks automatically". From my point it isn't clear that only some page breaks are affected. Originally I had something like "for certain page breaks" which isn't clear enough. |
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Christoph, Jörg | New | Writer: Added/changed drop-down entries for Notes, since there was no proposal yet. The current proposals for "Notes" are:
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Regina, Christoph | New | Changed "Distribute on multiple pages" to "Distribute on multiple sheets", since we may better refer to "sheets" when thinking of physical paper sheets. A similar naming has been used on the "Page Layout" tab page. Unfortunately, this is different to the currently used string and also difficult to understand with regard to Calc (worksheet vs. paper sheet). And, in Impress there also is "Slides per page" for the handout printing. Personally, I'm fine with "...multiple pages" here, since we won't be able to provide a clean solution. Discussion on main printerpullpages talk page. |
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Regina | New | Draw/Impress: Changed "Size: Tile pages" to "Size: Tile slides" for Impress. This has been a mistake. |
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Christoph | Undecided | Writer: Changed option "Graphics and diagrams" to "Pictures and drawings". "Pictures" improves consistency, the former "diagrams" has simply been wrong. |
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Regina 15:03, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | Undecided | On Writer, Tab "Options" there is the checkbox "Reverse page order". It should be "Reverse paper sheet order". Reasons: The option is needed for manual duplex printing and is not only applied to normal print but also to brochure printing. In the latter case one paper sheet carries pages from start and from the end of the document and you do not want to alter this order, but the order of the paper sheet stack. For example, you print the front of the paper sheets with pages 16/1 14/3 12/5 10/7 with face down. Then the top empty back sheet it that with 10/7. Thereon the pages 8/9 must be printed, but normal print order would print pages 2/15 next. Therefore you must reverse the paper sheet order either for the front print or for the back print. |
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Regina 15:15, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | Kept | The module specific tab has the title "Openoffice.org Calc", for example. I see no reason to put "Openoffice.org" in that place. I thought that the whole dialog is that dialog, which is independent of the operating system and depends only on the vendor. Therefore I would expect "OpenOffice.org" or "StarSuite" for example in the title bar of the whole dialog to distinguish the dialog from dialogs provided by the operating system. |
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Regina 15:33, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | Accepted | On tab "Openoffice.org Impress" and "Openoffice.org Draw", section "Size". "Tile pages" is misleading because of the plural "pages". This feature repeats one slide/page on the paper sheet, if the slide/page is smaller than the paper sheet. The plural leads to the wrong assumption, the feature would do a kind of N-up, filling the paper sheet with slide/page 1,2,... till it is full. Proposal "For small slide/page tile paper sheet with repeated slide/page." or shorter "Tile paper sheet with repeated slide/page". In addition be careful to distinguish slide/page for Impress/Draw. |
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