Performance/Meetings/2008 04
Performance/Meetings/2008/04/24
Meeting Minutes
IRC Meeting of Sun Microsystems (StarOffice) with RedFlag2000 and the Community ??
Performance Project
Date: 2008/04/24
Time: 15:57– 16:34
Meeting No.:
Agenda:
(15:57:02) LiHeng: please check mail:)
(15:57:26) LiHeng: i forgot to forward to you
(15:58:39) liangjun: oh. I don't receive it .
(15:59:15) LiHeng: again:)
(16:00:44) mhu: Hi all.
(16:01:00) liangjun: mhu: Hello
(16:01:12) LiHeng: hi,mhu
(16:02:37) LiHeng: mhu:because we are just designing the new Configmgr so we have a few topics to discuss
(16:02:50) kuangliang: hi,mhu
(16:03:04) LiHeng: mhu:did you receive the "weekly report"?
(16:03:12) mhu: Yes, I have received your weekly report. Looks god. Thanks.
(16:03:35) mhu: s/god/good/
(16:03:38) LiHeng: ;)
(16:03:42) mhu: :-)
(16:04:28) LiHeng: i have 2 small tipocs, do you have more?
(16:05:41) mhu: No, nothing more.
(16:06:15) LiHeng: ok , let's start with "Naming CWS for our ConfigMgr improving"
(16:06:45) mhu: Except, maybe, I have read that you received from Malte the CWS performance test code (?)
(16:07:25) mhu: So, are you now able to perform these tests yourself ?
(16:07:35) LiHeng: no code , test case and data only
(16:08:08) mhu: ah, okay. Do those test cases and data help ?
(16:08:12) LiHeng: we are just try to run them on our CWS in Beijing
(16:08:21) mhu: okay, good.
(16:08:57) mhu: that' all I had.
(16:09:13) LiHeng: In second tipoc we want to discuss some about tools set;)
(16:09:23) mhu: okay...
(16:09:54) LiHeng: mhu:we want to create new CWS after 5-1 holiday
(16:10:26) mhu: okay
(16:10:37) LiHeng: so, please you name it , our first CWS
(16:11:10) mhu: oh really? Give me a few seconds....
(16:11:40) LiHeng: a CWS for impove Configmgr :)
(16:11:54) mhu: oh yes, that's what I thought.
(16:12:42) mhu: so, maybe something with "configmgr" and "tuning" in it?
(16:13:21) mhu: or maybe "configcache" ?
(16:13:26) mhu: or ... ?
(16:14:08) LiHeng: "configcachetuning" maybe so long
(16:14:14) mhu: maybe we can also include your ideas for a name ?
(16:14:49) yug1: configtuning
(16:15:46) mhu: yes, "configtuning" sounds fine for me; maybe add "01" ?
(16:16:08) mhu: maybe, you do more CWS for configmgr ?
(16:16:42) LiHeng: maybe we start from "00" , C style ;)
(16:16:53) mhu: :-)
(16:17:00) yug1: :-D
(16:17:19) mhu: I am still thinking FORTRAN, I guess :-)
(16:17:32) liangjun: :)
(16:18:16) mhu: yes, "configtuning" is general enough to cover almost all changes that you want to apply to configmgr.
(16:18:51) LiHeng: ok, CWS "configtuining00" will be opening soon for Combine Cache files and make a dynamic index :)
(16:20:05) LiHeng: now , 2 Define tools set for OO evaluation.
(16:21:32) LiHeng: For a long time, we think about collection a set of tools for OO evaluation like Malte give us,
(16:21:55) LiHeng: and document manaul for them
(16:23:20) LiHeng: and that let anyone who interest in performance of OO can be start easily
(16:24:05) LiHeng: mhu:do you think OO.o need it?
(16:25:34) mhu: sorry, I needed to answer a local question; now I'm back again...
(16:26:35) mhu: so, performance tests and documentation needed? yes, it think it would be used, if people know about it and can understand how to use it.
(16:26:36) LiHeng: mhu:that maybe a chain of tools depoly , getting raw data , anlysis to report
(16:27:20) mhu: yes, that's probably a chain of tools, you are right.
(16:28:44) LiHeng: now, we only use profile tools, and some tools like Malte give us or Andrew published,
(16:29:16) LiHeng: do you have some experience
(16:29:17) LiHeng: ?
(16:29:39) mhu: hmmm...
(16:30:40) LiHeng: i want to develop a tool with ODF and OO too view raw data and compare in more viewpoint
(16:30:42) mhu: for real code analysis, I think there is nothing better, than what you already know how to use; these tools (like valgrind) produce the data, and you analyze it (manually).
(16:32:15) mhu: for automated measurement of performance characteristics (like startup time), the tooling that Malte provided is one way to measure and detect systematic differences (automated).
(16:33:32) mhu: data like those that Andrew (Z (?)) published, mostly cannot be reproduced, as it is ususally not known how they where produced; usually you need to re-do those experiments yourself (manually)
(16:34:31) LiHeng: as making raw data ,we can't do more now ,but we can create some analysis and report system to storage raw data and compare them
