ODF Toolkit/Minutes/2008 04

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2008/04/11

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<liutao>	Hello all
<amaOOo>	Hello
<fme>	Hi all!
<lijia1>	fme:Hi frank. You are there:)
<fme>	lijia1: Yes, I'm here ;-)
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<Klemens>	good morning
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<Svante>	Moin
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<Malte_>	OK, Dieter will be there in a second...
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<DieterLoeschky>	Hi all!
<rfc821>	Morning!
<Malte_>	Really, just a second ;)
<Malte_>	===============================================AGENDA:1 Status of the Teams1.1 ODF4J: Bernd Eilers (rfc821), Amit (amitksaha)1.2 AODL: Lars Behrmann (lb),liuyuhua1.3 UNO based Toolkit: Juergen Schmidt (jsc), Jirong1.4 Modularization, SW: Andreas Martens, LiuTao (liutao), lijian2 Open discussions===============================================
<Malte_>	.1.1 ODF4J: Bernd Eilers (rfc821), Amit (amitksaha).
<dyf>	I finished the form model.
<rfc821>	reviewing package layer in odf4j together with Svante nothing else new
<DieterLoeschky>	ok, thanks!
<Malte_>	.1.2 AODL: Lars Behrmann (lb),liuyuhua.
<larsb>	Looking for another way to group the AODL Nunit test, because sometimes the read and write processes on the packages of the test files are blocking each other. As a result these tests fail, but only because of that blocking bevaviour.
<larsb>	.
<Malte_>	.1.3 UNO based Toolkit: Juergen Schmidt (jsc), Jirong.
<Malte_>	.1.4 Modularization, SW: Andreas Martens, LiuTao (liutao), lijian.
<amaOOo>	Ongoing: replacing virtual drawing objects by clones to solve issue with controls for multiple layouts
<lijia1>	I am reading the files ama told us regarding drawing objects and nothing else from me.
<liutao>	I looked the Email that Andreas sent to me.
<liutao>	Do you think we assign more developer to help us to do the modularization project?
<liutao>	In RF
<liutao>	redflag
<DieterLoeschky>	amaOOo: do we need more developers?
<amaOOo>	liutao: DieterLoeschky No, I don't think so.
<liutao>	amaOOo:OK, XiuZhi said that we can assign more developer to do the project.
<liutao>	amaOOo:I see, nothing else from me
<Malte_>	Maybe for some other part of odftoolkit? :)
<Malte_>	I mean - developers...
<Malte_>	Which brings me to the next new point:
<Malte_>	Svante, fme: What about some discussion/information about how to continue with ODF4J and starting ODFDOM?
<Svante>	Sure..
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<Svante>	The very new thing about ODFDOM is that we generate a DOM layer from RelaxNG
<liutao>	xiuzhi:hello
<xiuzhi>	liutao:hi
<Malte_>	Perfect - xiuzhi: We just start to talk about the new ODFDOM.
<liutao>	xiuzhi, you lose some informations,"XiuZhi said that we can assign more developer to do the project."
<Svante>	And we take advantage of the experience we had made with AODL and ODF4J
<Svante>	I am looking forward to give you more detailed information on the Wiki the next week
<xiuzhi>	yes. we will assign more people on that project
<xiuzhi>	Svante:great
<liutao>	xiuzhi: ama said that he don't think we assign more developers in modularizition but Malte means for some other part of odftoolkit
<xiuzhi>	Malte_:yes. ODFDOM is very insteresting
<Svante>	We plan do come out with a first version next month
<Svante>	Help will be possible after that first pre-release
<Malte_>	Suggestion: Svante, fme and Klemens to bring out more information to the wiki until next Wednesday.This gives CH2000/RF a chance to look at that before the next meeting.
<xiuzhi>	we will continue the modularizition work. we can assign more resource if ama would like to give us chance
<Malte_>	Then they can decide what they want to do in that module
<xiuzhi>	liutao:not necessory assign more people if there is no more work to do
<liutao>	xiuzhi: I see
<Malte_>	I suggest you consider the people for ODFDOM ;)But first have a look at the documentation.
<Svante>	Sounds reasonable, Malte. I will bring up information on the wiki before next Meeting (Wednesday)
<Svante>	Any further questions for now on ODFDOM?
<xiuzhi>	Malte_: agreed,
<Malte_>	Not a question, just a hint:
<Svante>	Please, go for it..
<larsb>	:)
<Malte_>	I suggest that people working on ODF4J make familiar with ODFDOM
<Svante>	Done!
<xiuzhi>	Malte_: I think so
<Malte_>	We must discuss how to harmonize or merge these modules
<Svante>	;)
<Malte_>	OK, I think then we are done for today.
<Svante>	I discussed with rfc821/Bernd the ODFDOM architecture
<Svante>	k
<Svante>	..and transition of functionality from ODF4J to ODFDOM.
<Malte_>	Good - write the ideas in the wiki :)
<Svante>	Thx for your hints.. ;-)
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<Malte_>	OK, I will leave now, talk to you next Friday!
<Svante>	Till next Friday!

2008/04/18

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	<bei>	Hi there!
	<Svante>	Hi
	<Svante>	你好
	<fme>	Hi all.
	<jsc>	good morning
	<Klemens_afk>	Good morning too!
	<DieterLoeschky>	Ok, Malte, let's start
	<Malte_>	===============================================AGENDA:1 Status of the Teams1.1 ODF4J: Bernd Eilers (rfc821), Amit (amitksaha)1.2 AODL: Lars Behrmann (lb),liuyuhua1.3 UNO based Toolkit: Juergen Schmidt (jsc), Jirong1.4 Packaging Modularization: Stephan Bergmann (sb)1.5 Modularization, SW: Andreas Martens, LiuTao (liutao), lijian2 Open discussions===============================================
	<Malte_>	.1.1 ODF4J: Bernd Eilers (rfc821), Amit (amitksaha).
	<bei>	some talk about ODF Dom with Svante and Duyunfen nothing else new.
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	<Malte_>	.1.2 AODL: Lars Behrmann (lb),liuyuhua.
	<larsb>	I have applied several patches which will result in a better performance within the whole table handling. The pacthes have been submitted by Phil Jollans, thanks for therefor :)
	<larsb>	- for :( oops
	<Malte_>	.1.3 UNO based Toolkit: Juergen Schmidt (jsc), Jirong.
	<jsc>	An UNO based toolkit is still stalled at the moment. But i would like to work on that soon if possible
	<DieterLoeschky>	jsc: do you mean the ease of use stuff?
	<jsc>	no, it should be more a uno fying approach of odf4j or the upcoming odfdom fro my point of view
	<DieterLoeschky>	jsc: ok
	<Malte_>	.1.4 Packaging Modularization: Stephan Bergmann (sb).
	<sb__>	Work to polish 3 layer office is going on, shifting towards updatability issues now.
	<sb__>	In general, I would like to drop this topic (and me) from this chat: The connection to ODF toolkit topics is low, ca. zero. We have our own monthly chat (#ooopackaging) anyway. I never got any relevant feedback here.
	<sb__>	.
	<Malte_>	I agree, +1
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	<DieterLoeschky>	sb. ok, let's take this offline
	<sb__>	ok
	<Malte_>	amaOOo, just in time ;)
	<Malte_>	.1.5 Modularization, SW: Andreas Martens, LiuTao (liutao), lijian.
	<amaOOo>	No real progress with controls in multiple views
	<DieterLoeschky>	amaOOo: what's the reason?
	<amaOOo>	Virtual draw objects does not work
	<amaOOo>	I will try cloning of drawing objects instead
	<amaOOo>	I'm in contact with AW and FS regarding this issue
	<DieterLoeschky>	amaOOo: ok
	<Malte_>	OK, open discussions now - normally...Given that, with one exception, only people from Sun's OOo Team are here, I suggest to skip the planned ODFDOM discussions.Probably we simply finish here?
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	<Svante>	你好
	<bei>	ok
	<Malte_>	Dieter: Fine for you?
	<jsc>	it's fine for me
	<Svante>	+1
	<Svante>	Any questions from liutao or lijia?
	<lijia1>	nothing new from me.
	<liutao>	Svante:你好
	<liutao>	Nothing from me
	<lijia1>	Svante:and you are ?;)
	<DieterLoeschky>	yes
	<DieterLoeschky>	Malte: Amit asked us to provide the transcript on a regular base. Could you please take care of that?
	<Svante>	I am working for Sun as well on ODFDOM
	<Malte_>	Yes....
	<Malte_>	OK, meeting closed.
	<lijia1>	amaOOo:I want a private chat with you. What about you ?