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There is a weekly ODF Toolkit Meeting.  Minutes are gathered for one month per Wiki page, latest first.
 
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| <nowiki><Malte_></nowiki>
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| AGENDA:1 Status of the Teams1.1 ODF4J/ODFDOM: Bernd Eilers (rfc821), Amit (amitksaha), Svante, Klemens1.2 AODL: Lars Behrmann (lb),liuyuhua1.3 UNO based Toolkit: Juergen Schmidt (jsc), Jirong1.4 Modularization, SW: Andreas Martens, LiuTao (liutao), lijian2 Open discussions
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| <nowiki><Malte_></nowiki>
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| 1.1 ODF4J/ODFDOM: Bernd Eilers (rfc821), Amit (amitksaha), Svante, Klemens
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| As Bernd is not here, I will start..
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| I posted a first draft of documentation on the wiki
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| [http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ODFDOM http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ODFDOM]
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| And updated it already in the past days..
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| Any questions to ODFDOM?
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/dyf,isnick dyf]>
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| Hi,I have some questions.
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| Yes, dyf
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/dyf,isnick dyf]>
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| When odf dom begin,would odf4j continue?
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| This will be decided by the community..
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| I personally would prefer to gather forces in one code base
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| With the generated DOM ODFDOM has an advantage against ODF4J
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/DieterLoeschky,isnick DieterLoeschky]>
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| Plan is to merge both project but we have to clarify this in detail
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| Exactly, thanks Dieter!
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/dyf,isnick dyf]>
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| Oh, OK.
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| We come out with a 0.x version and before we reach 1.0 we want to move the functionality from ODF4J to ODFDOM..
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| That's the current plan
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| <nowiki><Malte_></nowiki>
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| 1.2 AODL: Lars Behrmann (lb),liuyuhua
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| Any other question?
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/dyf,isnick dyf]>
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| Liuyuhua is on vacation.
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/larsb,isnick larsb]>
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| Optimized some parts for the AODL NUNit tests. There are still some tests left which fail when running all tests together. Running the failed tests seperately they pass. No dependencies between the failing tests and the other. So still thinking about this ... maybe an AppDomain problem ...
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/larsb,isnick larsb]>
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| .
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| <nowiki><Malte_></nowiki>
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| 1.3 UNO based Toolkit: Juergen Schmidt (jsc), Jirong
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/jsc,isnick jsc]>
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| no news, busy with other stuff
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| <nowiki><Malte_></nowiki>
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| 1.4 Modularization, SW: Andreas Martens, LiuTao (liutao), lijian
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/amaOOo,isnick amaOOo]>
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| Status swrefactoring:
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/amaOOo,isnick amaOOo]>
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| Not much progress because I've been busy with other tasks.
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/amaOOo,isnick amaOOo]>
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| But I've modularized the Writer drawing model so we can easily test virtual objects and/or clone objects as well
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/lijian,isnick lijian]>
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| nothing new from me
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/liutao,isnick liutao]>
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| Not much progress from me.
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| <nowiki><Malte_></nowiki>
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| Seems that's it - open discussions now...
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| <nowiki><Malte_></nowiki>
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| Only if needed, of course ;)
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/vdaron,isnick vdaron]>
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| Is there already some ODFDOM C# Samples ?
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| not yet
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/larsb,isnick larsb]>
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| <nowiki>;)</nowiki>
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| But you might write one ;-)
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/dyf,isnick dyf]>
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| Svante: Would ODF DOM be implemented on the basis of org.w3c.dom.*?
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| yes, the Java Xerces implementation is using this W3C DOM interface
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/vdaron,isnick vdaron]>
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| The idea is to keep to code generator in Java and use Code template to generate C# files, right ?
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| close..
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| The code generator is currently in XSLT and Java and..
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/larsb,isnick larsb]>
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| Until now its XSLT
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| the reference implementation is Java 5
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/dyf,isnick dyf]>
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| will aodl use odf dom?
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| But the ODFDOM API should be able to be ported by the community, whenever desired..
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| ODFDOM is the next evolutonary step..
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/larsb,isnick larsb]>
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| But the resulting classes after a done transformation would be C# ;) when the stylesheets are rewritten to this
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| There might be an ODFDOM c# as well...
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/vdaron,isnick vdaron]>
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| ok, tks
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| Or we might step to use the UNO API and provide .NET acces..
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| This is not certain now and ..
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| Should be discussed after the first public pre-release..
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/vdaron,isnick vdaron]>
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| ok, tks for precisions
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/xiuzhi,isnick xiuzhi]>
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| Svante:can our members ,dyf and liuyuhua, join The project now?
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| Of course, but until the source is public I am not sure right now, where they can help
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/DieterLoeschky,isnick DieterLoeschky]>
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| but we will go open source very soon
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| I come back on this to you offlist, when I made up my mind, xiuzhi
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/xiuzhi,isnick xiuzhi]>
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| DieterLoeschky: ok
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/xiuzhi,isnick xiuzhi]>
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| Svante:ok
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| Any other question or comment regard the wiki docu?
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/dyf,isnick dyf]>
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| Svante: Thanks.I see. Now was ODF DOM relate to UNO?
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/dyf,isnick dyf]>
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| :)
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| I will tell you after the first release ;-)
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/dyf,isnick dyf]>
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| OK. Thanks.:)
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/dyf,isnick dyf]>
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| but another question is...
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/dyf,isnick dyf]>
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| When the document's structure was more complex,efficiency maybe not very satisfactroy,how to consider this problem?
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| We will have test scenarios and improve the efficiency..
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| Just an implementation problem, we have not seen problems so far..
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| I loaded the ODF spec without problems into ODFDOM
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/DieterLoeschky,isnick DieterLoeschky]>
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| bye!
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| <nowiki>DieterLoeschky has left freenode ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]")</nowiki>
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/dyf,isnick dyf]>
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| OK.
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/dyf,isnick dyf]>
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| Svante:Thanks.
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| You are welcome, dyf
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| Any other questions?
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| <nowiki><</nowiki>[irc://irc.freenode.net/Svante,isnick Svante]>
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| Otherwise I will continue to work on ODFDOM.. ;-)
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Latest revision as of 08:06, 25 April 2008

There is a weekly ODF Toolkit Meeting. Minutes are gathered for one month per Wiki page, latest first.

2008/04/25

<Malte_> AGENDA:1 Status of the Teams1.1 ODF4J/ODFDOM: Bernd Eilers (rfc821), Amit (amitksaha), Svante, Klemens1.2 AODL: Lars Behrmann (lb),liuyuhua1.3 UNO based Toolkit: Juergen Schmidt (jsc), Jirong1.4 Modularization, SW: Andreas Martens, LiuTao (liutao), lijian2 Open discussions
<Malte_> 1.1 ODF4J/ODFDOM: Bernd Eilers (rfc821), Amit (amitksaha), Svante, Klemens
<Svante> As Bernd is not here, I will start..
<Svante> I posted a first draft of documentation on the wiki
<Svante> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ODFDOM
<Svante> And updated it already in the past days..
<Svante> Any questions to ODFDOM?
<dyf> Hi,I have some questions.
<Svante> Yes, dyf
<dyf> When odf dom begin,would odf4j continue?
<Svante> This will be decided by the community..
<Svante> I personally would prefer to gather forces in one code base
<Svante> With the generated DOM ODFDOM has an advantage against ODF4J
<DieterLoeschky> Plan is to merge both project but we have to clarify this in detail
<Svante> Exactly, thanks Dieter!
<dyf> Oh, OK.
<Svante> We come out with a 0.x version and before we reach 1.0 we want to move the functionality from ODF4J to ODFDOM..
<Svante> That's the current plan
<Malte_> 1.2 AODL: Lars Behrmann (lb),liuyuhua
<Svante> Any other question?
<dyf> Liuyuhua is on vacation.
<larsb> Optimized some parts for the AODL NUNit tests. There are still some tests left which fail when running all tests together. Running the failed tests seperately they pass. No dependencies between the failing tests and the other. So still thinking about this ... maybe an AppDomain problem ...
<larsb> .
<Malte_> 1.3 UNO based Toolkit: Juergen Schmidt (jsc), Jirong
<jsc> no news, busy with other stuff
<Malte_> 1.4 Modularization, SW: Andreas Martens, LiuTao (liutao), lijian
<amaOOo> Status swrefactoring:
<amaOOo> Not much progress because I've been busy with other tasks.
<amaOOo> But I've modularized the Writer drawing model so we can easily test virtual objects and/or clone objects as well
<lijian> nothing new from me
<liutao> Not much progress from me.
<Malte_> Seems that's it - open discussions now...
<Malte_> Only if needed, of course ;)
<vdaron> Is there already some ODFDOM C# Samples ?
<Svante> not yet
<larsb> ;)
<Svante> But you might write one ;-)
<dyf> Svante: Would ODF DOM be implemented on the basis of org.w3c.dom.*?
<Svante> yes, the Java Xerces implementation is using this W3C DOM interface
<vdaron> The idea is to keep to code generator in Java and use Code template to generate C# files, right ?
<Svante> close..
<Svante> The code generator is currently in XSLT and Java and..
<larsb> Until now its XSLT
<Svante> the reference implementation is Java 5
<dyf> will aodl use odf dom?
<Svante> But the ODFDOM API should be able to be ported by the community, whenever desired..
<Svante> ODFDOM is the next evolutonary step..
<larsb> But the resulting classes after a done transformation would be C# ;) when the stylesheets are rewritten to this
<Svante> There might be an ODFDOM c# as well...
<vdaron> ok, tks
<Svante> Or we might step to use the UNO API and provide .NET acces..
<Svante> This is not certain now and ..
<Svante> Should be discussed after the first public pre-release..
<vdaron> ok, tks for precisions
<xiuzhi> Svante:can our members ,dyf and liuyuhua, join The project now?
<Svante> Of course, but until the source is public I am not sure right now, where they can help
<DieterLoeschky> but we will go open source very soon
<Svante> I come back on this to you offlist, when I made up my mind, xiuzhi
<xiuzhi> DieterLoeschky: ok
<xiuzhi> Svante:ok
<Svante> Any other question or comment regard the wiki docu?
<dyf> Svante: Thanks.I see. Now was ODF DOM relate to UNO?
<dyf>  :)
<Svante> I will tell you after the first release ;-)
<dyf> OK. Thanks.:)
<dyf> but another question is...
<dyf> When the document's structure was more complex,efficiency maybe not very satisfactroy,how to consider this problem?
<Svante> We will have test scenarios and improve the efficiency..
<Svante> Just an implementation problem, we have not seen problems so far..
<Svante> I loaded the ODF spec without problems into ODFDOM
<DieterLoeschky> bye!
|<-- DieterLoeschky has left freenode ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]")
<dyf> OK.
<dyf> Svante:Thanks.
<Svante> You are welcome, dyf
<Svante> Any other questions?
<Svante> Otherwise I will continue to work on ODFDOM.. ;-)


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<liutao> Hello all
<amaOOo> Hello
<fme> Hi all!
<lijia1> fme:Hi frank. You are there:)
<fme> lijia1: Yes, I'm here ;-)
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<Klemens> good morning
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<Svante> Moin
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<Malte_> OK, Dieter will be there in a second...
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<DieterLoeschky> Hi all!
<rfc821> Morning!
<Malte_> Really, just a second ;)
<Malte_> ===============================================AGENDA:1 Status of the Teams1.1 ODF4J: Bernd Eilers (rfc821), Amit (amitksaha)1.2 AODL: Lars Behrmann (lb),liuyuhua1.3 UNO based Toolkit: Juergen Schmidt (jsc), Jirong1.4 Modularization, SW: Andreas Martens, LiuTao (liutao), lijian2 Open discussions===============================================
<Malte_> .1.1 ODF4J: Bernd Eilers (rfc821), Amit (amitksaha).
<dyf> I finished the form model.
<rfc821> reviewing package layer in odf4j together with Svante nothing else new
<DieterLoeschky> ok, thanks!
<Malte_> .1.2 AODL: Lars Behrmann (lb),liuyuhua.
<larsb> Looking for another way to group the AODL Nunit test, because sometimes the read and write processes on the packages of the test files are blocking each other. As a result these tests fail, but only because of that blocking bevaviour.
<larsb> .
<Malte_> .1.3 UNO based Toolkit: Juergen Schmidt (jsc), Jirong.
<Malte_> .1.4 Modularization, SW: Andreas Martens, LiuTao (liutao), lijian.
<amaOOo> Ongoing: replacing virtual drawing objects by clones to solve issue with controls for multiple layouts
<lijia1> I am reading the files ama told us regarding drawing objects and nothing else from me.
<liutao> I looked the Email that Andreas sent to me.
<liutao> Do you think we assign more developer to help us to do the modularization project?
<liutao> In RF
<liutao> redflag
<DieterLoeschky> amaOOo: do we need more developers?
<amaOOo> liutao: DieterLoeschky No, I don't think so.
<liutao> amaOOo:OK, XiuZhi said that we can assign more developer to do the project.
<liutao> amaOOo:I see, nothing else from me
<Malte_> Maybe for some other part of odftoolkit? :)
<Malte_> I mean - developers...
<Malte_> Which brings me to the next new point:
<Malte_> Svante, fme: What about some discussion/information about how to continue with ODF4J and starting ODFDOM?
<Svante> Sure..
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<Svante> The very new thing about ODFDOM is that we generate a DOM layer from RelaxNG
<liutao> xiuzhi:hello
<xiuzhi> liutao:hi
<Malte_> Perfect - xiuzhi: We just start to talk about the new ODFDOM.
<liutao> xiuzhi, you lose some informations,"XiuZhi said that we can assign more developer to do the project."
<Svante> And we take advantage of the experience we had made with AODL and ODF4J
<Svante> I am looking forward to give you more detailed information on the Wiki the next week
<xiuzhi> yes. we will assign more people on that project
<xiuzhi> Svante:great
<liutao> xiuzhi: ama said that he don't think we assign more developers in modularizition but Malte means for some other part of odftoolkit
<xiuzhi> Malte_:yes. ODFDOM is very insteresting
<Svante> We plan do come out with a first version next month
<Svante> Help will be possible after that first pre-release
<Malte_> Suggestion: Svante, fme and Klemens to bring out more information to the wiki until next Wednesday.This gives CH2000/RF a chance to look at that before the next meeting.
<xiuzhi> we will continue the modularizition work. we can assign more resource if ama would like to give us chance
<Malte_> Then they can decide what they want to do in that module
<xiuzhi> liutao:not necessory assign more people if there is no more work to do
<liutao> xiuzhi: I see
<Malte_> I suggest you consider the people for ODFDOM ;)But first have a look at the documentation.
<Svante> Sounds reasonable, Malte. I will bring up information on the wiki before next Meeting (Wednesday)
<Svante> Any further questions for now on ODFDOM?
<xiuzhi> Malte_: agreed,
<Malte_> Not a question, just a hint:
<Svante> Please, go for it..
<larsb>  :)
<Malte_> I suggest that people working on ODF4J make familiar with ODFDOM
<Svante> Done!
<xiuzhi> Malte_: I think so
<Malte_> We must discuss how to harmonize or merge these modules
<Svante> ;)
<Malte_> OK, I think then we are done for today.
<Svante> I discussed with rfc821/Bernd the ODFDOM architecture
<Svante> k
<Svante> ..and transition of functionality from ODF4J to ODFDOM.
<Malte_> Good - write the ideas in the wiki :)
<Svante> Thx for your hints.. ;-)
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<Malte_> OK, I will leave now, talk to you next Friday!
<Svante> Till next Friday!


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<bei> Hi there!


<Svante> Hi


<Svante> 你好


<fme> Hi all.


<jsc> good morning


<Klemens_afk> Good morning too!


<DieterLoeschky> Ok, Malte, let's start


<Malte_> ===============================================AGENDA:1 Status of the Teams1.1 ODF4J: Bernd Eilers (rfc821), Amit (amitksaha)1.2 AODL: Lars Behrmann (lb),liuyuhua1.3 UNO based Toolkit: Juergen Schmidt (jsc), Jirong1.4 Packaging Modularization: Stephan Bergmann (sb)1.5 Modularization, SW: Andreas Martens, LiuTao (liutao), lijian2 Open discussions===============================================


<Malte_> .1.1 ODF4J: Bernd Eilers (rfc821), Amit (amitksaha).


<bei> some talk about ODF Dom with Svante and Duyunfen nothing else new.


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<Malte_> .1.2 AODL: Lars Behrmann (lb),liuyuhua.


<larsb> I have applied several patches which will result in a better performance within the whole table handling. The pacthes have been submitted by Phil Jollans, thanks for therefor :)


<larsb> - for :( oops


<Malte_> .1.3 UNO based Toolkit: Juergen Schmidt (jsc), Jirong.


<jsc> An UNO based toolkit is still stalled at the moment. But i would like to work on that soon if possible


<DieterLoeschky> jsc: do you mean the ease of use stuff?


<jsc> no, it should be more a uno fying approach of odf4j or the upcoming odfdom fro my point of view


<DieterLoeschky> jsc: ok


<Malte_> .1.4 Packaging Modularization: Stephan Bergmann (sb).


<sb__> Work to polish 3 layer office is going on, shifting towards updatability issues now.


<sb__> In general, I would like to drop this topic (and me) from this chat: The connection to ODF toolkit topics is low, ca. zero. We have our own monthly chat (#ooopackaging) anyway. I never got any relevant feedback here.


<sb__> .


<Malte_> I agree, +1


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<DieterLoeschky> sb. ok, let's take this offline


<sb__> ok


<Malte_> amaOOo, just in time ;)


<Malte_> .1.5 Modularization, SW: Andreas Martens, LiuTao (liutao), lijian.


<amaOOo> No real progress with controls in multiple views


<DieterLoeschky> amaOOo: what's the reason?


<amaOOo> Virtual draw objects does not work


<amaOOo> I will try cloning of drawing objects instead


<amaOOo> I'm in contact with AW and FS regarding this issue


<DieterLoeschky> amaOOo: ok


<Malte_> OK, open discussions now - normally...Given that, with one exception, only people from Sun's OOo Team are here, I suggest to skip the planned ODFDOM discussions.Probably we simply finish here?


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<Svante> 你好


<bei> ok


<Malte_> Dieter: Fine for you?


<jsc> it's fine for me


<Svante> +1


<Svante> Any questions from liutao or lijia?


<lijia1> nothing new from me.


<liutao> Svante:你好


<liutao> Nothing from me


<lijia1> Svante:and you are ?;)


<DieterLoeschky> yes


<DieterLoeschky> Malte: Amit asked us to provide the transcript on a regular base. Could you please take care of that?


<Svante> I am working for Sun as well on ODFDOM


<Malte_> Yes....


<Malte_> OK, meeting closed.


<lijia1> amaOOo:I want a private chat with you. What about you ?


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