Log Mac Meeting July 2nd 2008

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[2008-07-02 15:07:16] <PhilippL> 1. Welcome new devs joining Mac OS X port 
[2008-07-02 15:07:19] <PhilippL> hello new devs
[2008-07-02 15:07:32] =-= Mode #ooo_macport +o hdu_hh  by ChanServ
[2008-07-02 15:07:53] <PhilippL> 2. Current state of the open child workspaces (CWS)
[2008-07-02 15:08:09] <PhilippL> aquavcl08 integrated in (to be) m23
[2008-07-02 15:08:20] <hdu_hh> i91009 in BEA2
[2008-07-02 15:08:28] <PhilippL> will resync aquavcl09 as soon as m23 is available.
[2008-07-02 15:08:29] <hdu_hh> BEB300
[2008-07-02 15:09:08] <PhilippL> 3. Beta Refresh build with aquavcl08? Star guest: MH 
[2008-07-02 15:09:11] <PhilippL> who added that ?
[2008-07-02 15:09:15] <hdu_hh> me
[2008-07-02 15:09:20] -->| _Nesshof1 (n=_Nesshof@wlan-sun.staroffice.de) has joined #ooo_macport
[2008-07-02 15:09:36] <hdu_hh> hi Martin
[2008-07-02 15:09:41] <PhilippL> welcome _Nesshof1 
[2008-07-02 15:10:03] <_Nesshof1> hi
[2008-07-02 15:10:04] <hdu_hh> unfortuanetely only me+PL are currently here
[2008-07-02 15:10:13] * Dyrcona is lurking.
[2008-07-02 15:10:14] <_Nesshof1> :-)
[2008-07-02 15:11:05] <PhilippL> Well, in short: on the mailing list some people complained that aquavcl08 should go into BEB300, because there are some vital fixes in it.
[2008-07-02 15:11:25] <PhilippL> especially some crashes supposedly not fixed with aquabmpfix03
[2008-07-02 15:11:39] <hdu_hh> like drag&drop, etc.
[2008-07-02 15:11:50] <PhilippL> additionally hdu_hh would like that, too, to not get blamed by the community.
[2008-07-02 15:12:01] <PhilippL> D&D didn't crash and has not regressed
[2008-07-02 15:12:29] <hdu_hh> nice things that our Asian users would sorely miss: vertical writing
[2008-07-02 15:13:04] <PhilippL> At least the risk would only be for the Mac platform.
[2008-07-02 15:13:36] <hdu_hh> yes, PL was right: D&D didn't crash, it was cut&paste
[2008-07-02 15:13:48] <_Nesshof1> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/buglist.cgi?issue_id=90638+90785 ?
[2008-07-02 15:14:09] <hdu_hh> 88532
[2008-07-02 15:14:53] <_Nesshof1> 26 tasks in that cws ?
[2008-07-02 15:14:57] <hdu_hh> also multimonitor setups look bad because of a regression from aquavcl07 that is fixed in aquavcl08
[2008-07-02 15:15:01] <_Nesshof1> no way anymore for beta2
[2008-07-02 15:15:43] <_Nesshof1> I suggest then to promote a recent snapshot with that changes
[2008-07-02 15:16:09] <hdu_hh> maybe we shouldn't announce a beta2 for unxmac?
[2008-07-02 15:16:20] <hdu_hh> this is a reasonable alternative
[2008-07-02 15:16:49] <PhilippL> not really, mac is a stanard platform now.
[2008-07-02 15:18:03] <hdu_hh> as I see it >=m23 will be much better for Mac users than beta2
[2008-07-02 15:18:32] <PhilippL> I certainly would hope so. I would also say, the final should be event better :-)
[2008-07-02 15:18:50] <hdu_hh> it certainly will :-)
[2008-07-02 15:19:16] <_Nesshof1> let me think about it for an hour, what do you think is the risk of integration ?
[2008-07-02 15:20:10] <hdu_hh> I just don't want something heavily advertised and distributed in a few weeks, when the obvious issues are already known+fixed now
[2008-07-02 15:20:33] <hdu_hh> _Nesshof1: only Aqua is changed
[2008-07-02 15:20:45] <_Nesshof1> hdu_hh: for sure ?
[2008-07-02 15:20:56] <PhilippL> Let me see.
[2008-07-02 15:20:56] <hdu_hh> PhilippL: can you confirm?
[2008-07-02 15:21:35] <_Nesshof1> svx  source/dialog/optgdlg.src ?
[2008-07-02 15:22:04] <_Nesshof1> vcl  inc/vcl/impprn.hxx     vcl  inc/vcl/svdata.hxx
[2008-07-02 15:22:18] <_Nesshof1> vcl  source/window/toolbox.cxx
[2008-07-02 15:22:25] <PhilippL> yes, there are changes. some dialogs are resized. That risk is null anywhere, though.
[2008-07-02 15:22:26] <_Nesshof1> etc ....
[2008-07-02 15:22:43] <PhilippL> toolbox.cxx only changed in aqua code path, so yes.
[2008-07-02 15:23:10] <PhilippL> svdata adds a bool triggering that toolbox code path, the bool is only set on aqua.
[2008-07-02 15:23:46] <PhilippL> Yes, I can confirm that code path is changed on aqua only and that the resource file changes are nbegligible.
[2008-07-02 15:25:09] <PhilippL> also the change in desktop dp_gui_dlg2.cxx is safe.
[2008-07-02 15:25:15] <_Nesshof1> ok, i will think about it
[2008-07-02 15:25:20] <hdu_hh> thanks!
[2008-07-02 15:25:26] <_Nesshof1> and decide todayy
[2008-07-02 15:25:32] <PhilippL> Thanks for even considering at this point.
[2008-07-02 15:25:54] <PhilippL> that brings us to ...
[2008-07-02 15:25:57] <PhilippL> 4. Roundtable
[2008-07-02 15:27:43] <PhilippL> That seems to be it.
[2008-07-02 15:27:49] <hdu_hh> looking forward to _Nesshof1 's decision
[2008-07-02 15:27:54] <Dyrcona> yes.