Log Mac Meeting April 9th 2008

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[2008-04-09 15:04:38] <PhilippL> 1.  Welcome new devs joining Mac OS X port 
[2008-04-09 15:04:43] <PhilippL> anybody new ?
[2008-04-09 15:05:29] <PhilippL> 2. Current state of the open CWS's
[2008-04-09 15:05:41] <PhilippL> still waiting for m6 (the Godot version)
[2008-04-09 15:06:17] <fne> aqua11y01 got approved by QA yesterday. will probably be integrated into m7
[2008-04-09 15:06:55] <PhilippL> Oh, and if somebody has feedback on the Ctrl <-> Cmd change in aquavcl07 that would be welcome. I haven't found issues yet, but there are bound to be some.
[2008-04-09 15:07:22] <shaunmcdonald> PhilippL: that will make many users happy
[2008-04-09 15:07:28] <obr> CWS obr08, which repairs a few things in the dmg, is undergoing QA currently
[2008-04-09 15:07:55] <Dyrcona> what's broken in the dmg?
[2008-04-09 15:08:08] <PhilippL> obr: yes, the DaMaGe needs to be repaired ;-)
[2008-04-09 15:08:29] <fne> nice one ;-)
[2008-04-09 15:08:44] <obr> issue 87721
[2008-04-09 15:08:50] <IZBot> Installation DEFECT RESOLVED FIXED P3 dmg folder cluttered with license files, lost background image, missing beta string http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87721
[2008-04-09 15:09:38] <PhilippL> any other CWS news ?
[2008-04-09 15:09:44] <Dyrcona> ok. i hadn't really noticed an obvious problem, though some help icons seem to be missing.
[2008-04-09 15:10:22] <obr> a nice side effect of adding localization for the file types is that file picker now is fully localized as well
[2008-04-09 15:10:57] <shaunmcdonald> for the non-apple supported langs too?
[2008-04-09 15:11:20] <obr> no, I don't think so
[2008-04-09 15:11:51] <shaunmcdonald> that point is on the 3rd mac port meeting agenda
[2008-04-09 15:12:01] <obr> ah, ok
[2008-04-09 15:12:37] <PhilippL> 3. Roundtable
[2008-04-09 15:12:57] <PhilippL> The meeting in Hamburg has not found any new participants yet.
[2008-04-09 15:13:15] <ericb2> PhilippL: I'd like to see the WWDC thing clarified before
[2008-04-09 15:13:15] <shaunmcdonald> I will be making the decision about the hamburg meetingwithin the next week
[2008-04-09 15:13:37] <ericb2> PhilippL: until now, this is just promise, and spare time
[2008-04-09 15:13:46] <PhilippL> no doubt.
[2008-04-09 15:14:07] <PhilippL> just our "special guest" should have some weeks in advance for planning.
[2008-04-09 15:14:26] <ericb2> PhilippL: sure. In fact, don't expect me to attend
[2008-04-09 15:14:48] <ericb2> PhilippL: if ever I can, I'll do, but I doubt
[2008-04-09 15:15:08] <shaunmcdonald>  ericb2 even if you can't attend in person, will you be happy to do a video conference?
[2008-04-09 15:15:13] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald: no
[2008-04-09 15:15:30] <shaunmcdonald> ok
[2008-04-09 15:15:58] <shaunmcdonald> The special guest requires at least 10 days notice
[2008-04-09 15:17:35] <PhilippL> Oh, then we have time still, ok.
[2008-04-09 15:18:13] <PhilippL> Anything else to discuss ?
[2008-04-09 15:19:00] <shaunmcdonald> fne: the days that you can't come (i.e. weekends in may) are the days when Stephan Schaefer can come
[2008-04-09 15:19:20] <fne> so we have to decide who is more important ;-)
[2008-04-09 15:19:33] <fne> lemme have a look
[2008-04-09 15:19:48] <shaunmcdonald> or do it on a friday/saturday or sunday/monday
[2008-04-09 15:19:54] <shaunmcdonald> http://www.meetomatic.com/responses.php?id=3CCBM29N85I1
[2008-04-09 15:20:48] <fne> Friday/saturday 16./17. would be okay for me, but i would have to leave early (last match of german footbal league on 17.)
[2008-04-09 15:21:07] <fne> sunday/monday 25./26. could work for me also
[2008-04-09 15:21:59] <shaunmcdonald> fne: leaving early isn't a problem
[2008-04-09 15:22:15] <fne> then 16./17. would be better for me
[2008-04-09 15:23:33] <shaunmcdonald> should I put this to the vote on the mailing list?
[2008-04-09 15:26:05] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald: I'd suggest you to propose a date, and go. Else, nothing will never happen
[2008-04-09 15:26:25] <PhilippL> seconded
[2008-04-09 15:26:39] <shaunmcdonald> ericb2: yeah, I doubt there will be a lot of complaints.
[2008-04-09 15:27:55] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald: from my side, I can very probably not attend, because I spent too much of time/energy/money in events, and my wife does no longer accept
[2008-04-09 15:28:33] <shaunmcdonald> ericb2: I understand
[2008-04-09 15:28:34] * ericb2 only volunteer 
[2008-04-09 15:30:22] <PhilippL> Any other things to discuss ?
[2008-04-09 15:30:37] <ericb2> PhilippL: yes
[2008-04-09 15:30:51] <ericb2> PhilippL: is aquavcl07 using m5 ?
[2008-04-09 15:30:57] <PhilippL> currently yes.
[2008-04-09 15:31:01] <ericb2> PhilippL: ok
[2008-04-09 15:31:09] <PhilippL> since m6 is not ready yet.
[2008-04-09 15:31:19] <ericb2> PhilippL: and did someone succeed in m6 pre-build ?
[2008-04-09 15:31:20] <PhilippL> I'll resync SASP
[2008-04-09 15:31:35] * ericb2 stuck with some strange tests in basebmp and somewher else too 
[2008-04-09 15:31:44] <PhilippL> s/SASP/ASAP/
[2008-04-09 15:31:47] <obr>  /away for a while
[2008-04-09 15:31:56] <obr> sorry
[2008-04-09 15:31:59] <ericb2> all the rest is built
[2008-04-09 15:32:04] <ericb2> obr: ;-)
[2008-04-09 15:32:51] <Dyrcona> i'll test aquavcl07 on m5 this week.
[2008-04-09 15:33:23] <Dyrcona> can I add in obr08 too, or is that not necessary since it has gone to QA?
[2008-04-09 15:33:44] <ericb2> Dyrcona: I'll do too. the cmd / ctrl exchange is very interesting :)
[2008-04-09 15:34:00] <ericb2> Dyrcona: will you have some time next week ?
[2008-04-09 15:34:08] <ericb2> Dyrcona: I'd like to progress with the scanner thing
[2008-04-09 15:34:17] <Dyrcona> ericb2: i'll have to find my transcript where you told me how to merge a cws into my source.
[2008-04-09 15:34:48] <Dyrcona> ericb2: i might. one of my coworkers in the hospital, so I may have to take over some extra time for him, just as you say you recently had to do.
[2008-04-09 15:35:35] <ericb2> Dyrcona: you want to test a cws, right ?
[2008-04-09 15:36:19] <Dyrcona> ericb2: yes, you showed me to get aquavcl05 into a SRC680 checkout, so i'll find that transcript and figure it out from there.
[2008-04-09 15:36:35] <ericb2> Dyrcona: this is more easy with aquavcl07
[2008-04-09 15:36:46] * Dyrcona wishes that EIS made it easier to figure out a CVS tag.
[2008-04-09 15:37:03] <ericb2> I don't have the module list, but just vcl should be inside imho. PhilippL will confirm
[2008-04-09 15:37:36] <PhilippL> Dyrcona: you want the difference between master and CWS tag, e.g. cvs update -jDEV300_m5 -jcws_dev300_aquavcl07
[2008-04-09 15:38:03] <PhilippL> Dyrcona: do this in all modules that are part of the CWS in question.
[2008-04-09 15:38:19] <Dyrcona> PhillipL: thanks. you just saved me a half hour of searching transcripts. :)
[2008-04-09 15:38:37] <PhilippL> Dyrcona: you're welcome
[2008-04-09 15:39:25] <ericb2> PhilippL: I have updated AquaBuild page , but there is something new with DEV300_m6  : ant 1.7.0 is now required for mediawiki build
[2008-04-09 15:39:30] <shaunmcdonald> Dyrcona: Spotlight isn't working?
[2008-04-09 15:39:55] -->| dave_largo (n=drichard@207.22.154.120) has joined #ooo_macport
[2008-04-09 15:40:02] <Dyrcona> PhillipL: do i want to do a diff and patch, or should i just check the modules out with the cws tag.
[2008-04-09 15:40:07] <PhilippL> What do we need mediawiki for ?
[2008-04-09 15:40:17] <ericb2> PhilippL: don't know. New module :)
[2008-04-09 15:40:38] <Dyrcona> shaunmcdonald: i haven't really tried spotlight. i didn't install the plugin.
[2008-04-09 15:40:57] <shaunmcdonald> Dyrcona: to look for the transcripts?
[2008-04-09 15:41:02] <Dyrcona> ericb2: Leopard has ant 1.7.0, i think.
[2008-04-09 15:41:17] <Dyrcona> shaunmcdonald: oh. silly me. :)
[2008-04-09 15:41:18] <ericb2> Dyrcona: sure, but our baseline is Tiger
[2008-04-09 15:41:25] <ericb2> :-)
[2008-04-09 15:41:45] <Dyrcona> ericb2: yes. i remember seeing a conversation when i was lurking on here recently. it is also in mac ports.
[2008-04-09 15:41:52] <fne> Tiger/XCode 2.5 = ant 1.6.5, Leopard/XCode 3.0 = ant 1.7.0
[2008-04-09 15:42:02] <ericb2> fne: thanks
[2008-04-09 15:42:07] <Dyrcona> yes. i use ant from mac ports anyway.
[2008-04-09 15:42:18] <ericb2> fne: I just verified Leopard, and I don't run Xcode 2.5
[2008-04-09 15:42:38] <ericb2> Dyrcona: or the official binary you can download from apache-something ...
[2008-04-09 15:43:01] <fne> ericb2: XCode 2.4 also has ant 1.6.5 I think
[2008-04-09 15:43:20] <ericb2> PhilippL: : was my question : what about suggest to use ant 1.7.0 , but needs to be discussed before
[2008-04-09 15:43:24] <ericb2> fne: indeed
[2008-04-09 15:44:15] <PhilippL> since ant is not part of the resulting installation set, why not use 1.7 ?
[2008-04-09 15:44:44] <ericb2> PhilippL: that's my question. I can add an entry in AquaBuild page
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[2008-04-09 15:45:02] <PhilippL> I'd suggest using the newer version.
[2008-04-09 15:45:26] <fne> it would be great to reduce prerequisites, so I think it would be best if one only had to install XCode and everything would work
[2008-04-09 15:45:27] <Dyrcona> ericb2: I agree. It should be mentioned on the aquabuild page.
[2008-04-09 15:46:02] <Dyrcona> fne: well, who is requiring ant 1.7, and why?
[2008-04-09 15:46:16] <PhilippL> Or build without mediawiki, that is probably only an extension anyway.
[2008-04-09 15:46:27] <fne> ericb2 mentioned it is necessary for mediawiki
[2008-04-09 15:46:42] <fne> PhilippL: +1
[2008-04-09 15:46:46] <Dyrcona> fne: oh, sorry, i missed that.
[2008-04-09 15:47:00] <Dyrcona> so, why is mediawiki in OO.o?
[2008-04-09 15:47:22] <ericb2> Dyrcona: if I'm not wrong this is an extension
[2008-04-09 15:47:44] <ericb2> Dyrcona: e.g. to export an .odt page into mediawiki format or something like that
[2008-04-09 15:48:25] <Dyrcona> ericb2: I was beginning to suspect that.
[2008-04-09 15:48:33] * shaunmcdonald has Ant 1.7.0 compiled on 23 sep 07
[2008-04-09 15:48:59] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald: no problem with prebuild ant 1.7.0 on Linux PowerPC either
[2008-04-09 15:49:35] <PhilippL> Are you sure it's a new module ? Or is it a submodule somewhere ? I can't find it in our m6 source tree
[2008-04-09 15:50:30] <ericb2> PhilippL: it is in .. swext
[2008-04-09 15:50:55] <ericb2> PhilippL: new module if I'm not wrong. Sorry, I told it was mediawiki
[2008-04-09 15:51:35] * ericb2 will hack stupid tests in basebmp, to complete m6 build 
[2008-04-09 15:52:19] <PhilippL> Ok, then it's an extension anyway. That will probably not matter to many people who want to build. Still if ant1.7 is a prerequisite now, you can expect it to turn up in other modules.
[2008-04-09 15:53:15] <PhilippL> what do the tests say that fails ?
[2008-04-09 15:53:28] <PhilippL> please remember that we use basebmp to do our XOR rendering.
[2008-04-09 15:53:44] <PhilippL> if it is really broken you won't see a cursor perhaps.
[2008-04-09 15:55:21] <ericb2> PhilippL: :-)
[2008-04-09 15:55:23] <ericb2> ----------------------------------------------------------
[2008-04-09 15:55:24] <ericb2> - start unit test on library ../unxmacxi.pro/lib/libtests.dylib
[2008-04-09 15:55:24] <ericb2> ----------------------------------------------------------
[2008-04-09 15:55:36] <ericb2> Use default signal file name 'signalfile_1207749212.txt'
[2008-04-09 15:55:36] <ericb2> # Current Time: 15:53:37
[2008-04-09 15:55:36] <ericb2> [2008.04.09//]
[2008-04-09 15:55:36] <ericb2> # -- BEGIN:
[2008-04-09 15:55:36] <ericb2> PDFITest.PDFITest.testXPDFParser;ERROR#FAILED#setUp() failed
[2008-04-09 15:55:37] <ericb2> PDFITest.PDFITest.testOdfWriterExport;ERROR#FAILED#setUp() failed
[2008-04-09 15:55:41] <ericb2> PDFITest.PDFITest.testOdfDrawExport;ERROR#FAILED#setUp() failed
[2008-04-09 15:55:43] <ericb2> # -- END:
[2008-04-09 15:55:45] <ericb2> Test #PASSED#
[2008-04-09 15:55:47] <ericb2> dmake:  Error code 1, while making 'unittest'
[2008-04-09 15:55:48] <ericb2> PhilippL: new pdfimport I think
[2008-04-09 15:56:05] <PhilippL> ok, that won't be a problem then.
[2008-04-09 15:56:56] <ericb2> PhilippL: and at least, I'll see the face of DEV300_m6 ( since the time I add patches, buildfixes  ..etc ) :)
[2008-04-09 15:56:56] <PhilippL> but those tests sure aren't in basebmp but xpdf, the new module ?
[2008-04-09 15:57:04] <ericb2> PhilippL: yes
[2008-04-09 15:57:27] <ericb2> PhilippL: probably something not found ( error 1 )
[2008-04-09 15:58:30] <PhilippL> Ok. Any more points for the meeting ?
[2008-04-09 15:59:41] * ericb2 believed it was ended :)
[2008-04-09 15:59:55] <PhilippL> Then it is now I think :-)
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