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[22:09]  <fheckl> ok, I read his intro mail, hi everyone
 
[22:09]  <fheckl> ok, I read his intro mail, hi everyone
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[22:10]  <paveljanik> other new devs?
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[22:10]  <ericb2> paveljanik: I think so
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[22:12]  <impad> yes, I am a standalone programer with some experience with OSX dev
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[22:12]  <impad> but a newcomer on the project :)
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[22:12]  <ericb2> impad: great !  be welcome :)
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[22:13]  <impad> ericb2 : thank you
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[22:13]  <ericb2> impad: do you have Carbon API experience ?
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[22:14]  <ismael_> hi damiend
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[22:14]  <damiend> ismael_: ih
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[22:14]  <impad> ericb2 : unfortunately, I'm much more experienced in Cocoa
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[22:14]  <damiend> ismael_: i'm reading the log
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[22:15]  <ericb2> impad: if you have Mac experience, you can help us
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[22:15]  impad ismael_ IZBot
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[22:15]  <PhilippL> Question: Is the Cocoa implementation based on Carbon ?
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[22:15]  <impad> ericb2 : at least, I'll try ;)
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[22:16]  <fheckl> PhilippL; given Cocoa's past, I doubt it
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[22:16]  <ericb2> PhilippL: no, this is another API ( objective C, simple inheritance, dynamic typing ..etc) . Most of the time Carbon "compatible" , but not always
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[22:16]  <paveljanik> PhilippL: some APIs are, some are not.
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[22:17]  <PhilippL> So is there any real danger of Apple end-of-lifing Carbon ?
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[22:18]  <fheckl> PhilippL: not in the next few years
  
  

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[22:00] <ericb2> Can we start ?

[22:00] <shaunmcdonald> ericb2: yes

[22:00] <ericb2> 1. Welcome new devs and devs from Sun joining Mac OS X port

[22:00] <ericb2> :)

[22:00] <shaunmcdonald> the agenda is at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/MacOSXPortMeetings

[22:01] <ericb2> shaunmcdonald: thanks

[22:01] * cloph_away is now known as cloph

[22:01] <ericb2> as usual , the first point is dedicated to welcome the new devs

[22:01] <ericb2> today is not usual, becasue we have to welcome Sun devs

[22:02] <paveljanik> we want to :-)

[22:02] <PhilippL> Oh, I'm here :-)

[22:02] paveljanik PhilippL plipli

[22:02] <PhilippL> Hello everybody.

[22:03] <paveljanik> Looks like _Nesshof_ finally trashed Windows as well? ;-)

[22:03] <ericb2> PhilippL: can you please shortly present you ?

[22:03] paveljanik PhilippL plipli

[22:03] * cloph wonders whether anybody commented to my nas question/rant since I have been disconnected...

[22:03] <_Nesshof_> paveljanik: not really, I'm using all the platforms where OOo runs

[22:04] * PhilippL works for Sun/StarOffics/StarDivision for nearly ten years. basically always on the platform GUI stuff, and here mostly for the Unix platforms.

[22:04] * _Nesshof_ admits that he runs now Vista

[22:05] * Cremlae (n=Cremlae@dialup-85-141.colorado.edu) has joined #OOo_macport

[22:05] <PhilippL> Apart from vcl I work on printing clipboard, PDF export, scanning and have left fingerprints at a dozen other places.

[22:05] <plipli> hi Cremlae

[22:05] <paveljanik> PhilippL: glad to have you on board!

[22:05] <Cremlae> plipli: Hi!

[22:06] <PhilippL> I have basically no mac experience, but I think I can help with integration into general vcl.

[22:06] <plipli> PhilippL: great to have a vcl expert with us

[22:06] <PhilippL> HDU on the other hand is THE font expert inside OOo I would say.

[22:06] <ericb2> PhilippL: sure you will : your vcl knowledge is IMHO impressive

[22:06] <plipli> we need vcl knowledge, we ll bring mac osx experience

[22:07] <PhilippL> The aqua ATSUI code is already contributed (at least partly ?) by him and he will certainly continue to work on that.

[22:07] <plipli> hdu has helped eric and me for atsui

[22:07] <PhilippL> I guess that's about it about us ?

[22:07] <ericb2> FYI , Herbert advertised me he cannot attend the meeting

[22:07] paveljanik PhilippL plipli

[22:07] paveljanik PhilippL plipli

[22:08] * fheckl (n=florianh@p57B55D99.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #ooo_macport

[22:08] <plipli> With hdu tips, I was able to inplement beginning parts of salatslayout

[22:08] <ericb2> PhilippL: thank you very much

[22:08] <shaunmcdonald> fheckl: hello, PhilippL has just introduced himself

[22:09] <plipli> hi fheckl

[22:09] <fheckl> ok, I read his intro mail, hi everyone

[22:10] <paveljanik> other new devs?

[22:10] <ericb2> paveljanik: I think so

[22:12] <impad> yes, I am a standalone programer with some experience with OSX dev

[22:12] <impad> but a newcomer on the project :)

[22:12] <ericb2> impad: great ! be welcome :)

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[22:13] <impad> ericb2 : thank you

[22:13] <ericb2> impad: do you have Carbon API experience ?

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[22:14] <ismael_> hi damiend

[22:14] <damiend> ismael_: ih

[22:14] <impad> ericb2 : unfortunately, I'm much more experienced in Cocoa

[22:14] <damiend> ismael_: i'm reading the log

[22:15] <ericb2> impad: if you have Mac experience, you can help us

[22:15] impad ismael_ IZBot

[22:15] <PhilippL> Question: Is the Cocoa implementation based on Carbon ?

[22:15] <impad> ericb2 : at least, I'll try ;)

[22:16] <fheckl> PhilippL; given Cocoa's past, I doubt it

[22:16] <ericb2> PhilippL: no, this is another API ( objective C, simple inheritance, dynamic typing ..etc) . Most of the time Carbon "compatible" , but not always

[22:16] <paveljanik> PhilippL: some APIs are, some are not.

[22:17] <PhilippL> So is there any real danger of Apple end-of-lifing Carbon ?

[22:17] * doctype (n=martin@p57a23df8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #ooo_macport

[22:18] <fheckl> PhilippL: not in the next few years


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