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| + | mba: talked to KaiA today, for an explanation. Not a high priority for him, and a wide change, somehow always other higher priority tasks. | ||
| + | mmeeks: why such a huge problem for QA ? what would these guys do ? | ||
| + | nils: (after introduction) - depends on the change: run the test-tool over it, and poke on specifics identified by the developer. Looked at this CWS - it was resynched many times, but never marked 'Ready for QA'. | ||
| + | mba: plenty of examples of internal Sun CWS' that just never made it, priorities changed etc. Surely Novell can do QA on it themselves ? (perhaps problems with multiple platforms) ? | ||
| + | mmeeks: we can do that, but we already ship it to our customers, we tested it ourselves etc. what more needs doing ? we filed up-stream for patch review: no response. | ||
| + | mba: patch review is not possible for all patches; huge backlog of them, and the burden is too high. | ||
| + | mmeeks: it is not a goal then to review all patches ? | ||
| + | mba: no, can't be done for all incoming patches. | ||
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Revision as of 19:20, 14 May 2007
Engineering Steering Committee Meetings Minutes
The Engineering Steering Committee meets every two weeks on Monday 4pm UTC (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meeting.html).
agenda for next meetings
2007-05-28
- regular review of long-term road-blocked patches
open agenda items
- OpenOffice.org source control system (SCM): what is the roadmap for the future ?
Minutes
2007-05-14
regular review of long-term road-blocked patches
calc: persist csv import settings
mmeeks: walk through of the timeline
mba: something that the IRT/IIT metrics don't catch
UE team don't track issues regularly & Falko left
mmeeks: It seems some people (UE) demand their say, but then don't say anything.
mba: didn't we suggest timeouts for non-controversial changes before ? here for User Experience ?
mmeeks: yes - but discarded by QA previously, as part of stymied new inclusion work-flow.
Nesshof: did you consider mailing dev@specs to ping them ?
mmeeks: no; we don't have the issue in our ooo-builds, why burn yet more time here ?
gsl: image shrink - ka009
mba: talked to KaiA today, for an explanation. Not a high priority for him, and a wide change, somehow always other higher priority tasks. mmeeks: why such a huge problem for QA ? what would these guys do ? nils: (after introduction) - depends on the change: run the test-tool over it, and poke on specifics identified by the developer. Looked at this CWS - it was resynched many times, but never marked 'Ready for QA'. mba: plenty of examples of internal Sun CWS' that just never made it, priorities changed etc. Surely Novell can do QA on it themselves ? (perhaps problems with multiple platforms) ? mmeeks: we can do that, but we already ship it to our customers, we tested it ourselves etc. what more needs doing ? we filed up-stream for patch review: no response. mba: patch review is not possible for all patches; huge backlog of them, and the burden is too high. mmeeks: it is not a goal then to review all patches ? mba: no, can't be done for all incoming patches.
coordinating the next feature releases
Clarify what the important issues for the next releases are, who is doing what work, next major version of OpenOffice.org
Nesshof: Please update Features page with details.
coordination of new features
We just experience that two groups Novell and CH2000 are working on the same feature (text grid control)
mmeeks: This is an issue of CH2000 not doing their work in a public fashion, Novell consulted, blogged, and took this to the ODF TC. xiuzhi: to avoid the confilt with other voluteers again,I will give a list of new feature we will submited
2007-04-30
participants: cmc, mh, pjanik, vq
1. IRC, Telecon, Telecon/IRC, Skype meetings?
mh will provide dial in number until May 14th Idea: should we try using e.g. Skype?
2. Nils, Xiuzhi and Dieter will be added to the list.
3. AI: mmeeks will provide list of top 10 patches and we will try to cover first 2 - 3 in a meeting ?
