Community Council Minutes 20080911

Attendees

1. André Schnabel
2. Martin Hollmichel
3. Stefan Taxhet
4. Cor Nouws
5. Matthias Huetsch (partly)

IRC Logs

(17:41:04) Thalion72: ok .. seems, we should wait for some other people to join, but I have to leave in 45 minutes
(17:41:58) CorNouws: Can we start discussion on - for example - face to face meeting? I think we four are interested.
(17:42:11) Thalion72: yes, we can :)
(17:42:22) _Nesshof_: CorNouws: Thalion72: have you read my proposal on dev@ ?
(17:42:34) Thalion72: dev@ooo?
(17:42:35) _Nesshof_: I would like to take this as a basis
(17:42:56) CorNouws: _Nesshof_: Nosorry, I've just seen it passing by.
(17:43:00) _Nesshof_: for discussion in a f2f meeting
(17:43:10) mhu [n=matthias@nat/sun/x-2b5fac37aad24f96] is de ruimte binnengekomen.
(17:43:13) Thalion72: _Nesshof_: what list?
(17:43:19) _Nesshof_: dev@ooo
(17:43:30) mhu: Hi all, sorry for being late (am I late?).
(17:43:31) ***Thalion72 is not subscribe to this list :(
(17:43:39) Thalion72: mhu: you are :)
(17:43:46) CorNouws: Thalion72: I'll send you a link
(17:43:47) _Nesshof_: that was my task to follow up on the dev list
(17:43:51) CorNouws: Hi Matthias
(17:44:13) Thalion72: CorNouws: can you post it here?
(17:44:19) mhu: Hi Cor
(17:45:09) CorNouws: Thalion72: here you are: http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=23288
(17:46:14) CorNouws: (I see a whole lot of officers passing by)
(17:46:56) CorNouws: mhu: we started to discuss about the face to face meeting
(17:47:26) CorNouws: and Martin pointed to his post on dev@ as basis for that meeting.
(17:47:30) CorNouws: correct?
(17:47:45) _Nesshof_: yes
(17:47:53) Thalion72: _Nesshof_: I agree to your points (as much as I can tell from a 1 Minute reading)
(17:48:10) CorNouws: OK, than we can look at the agenda's?
(17:48:20) Thalion72: but still .. I'm in fafour of finishing one step before discussing the next
(17:48:46) CorNouws: Thalion72: ?
(17:49:08) Thalion72: CorNouws: I was referring to Nessof's "Officer" mail
(17:49:47) _Nesshof_: Thalion72: yes, but I think we are able to deal with both items idependently
(17:50:38) Thalion72: _Nesshof_: absolutely .. but at the moment we are not coming any step further with the first (elections, who is on the council ...)
(17:50:45) CorNouws: Ah, legislative tasks and judiciary tasks .
(17:51:12) CorNouws: I think there is some interaction between the both
(17:51:14) mhu: okay, now I have read over Martin's "officer" email as well; I'm fine with a face to face meeting.
(17:51:34) CorNouws: Plus that understanding eacht other very well is needed on eachof the issues
(17:51:56) CorNouws: Plsu that I do not expect that a meeting can be planned within a few days, so we have some time for mailing
(17:52:25) Thalion72: CorNouws: hmm .. the meeting can be planned asap - but preparation would need some time
(17:52:50) CorNouws: Let'stry to plan ?!
(17:52:50) _Nesshof_: I have one problem with Thalion's proposal: it's the definition of an active contributor
(17:53:06) Thalion72: and I don'T think, that we will be able to draft a new charter in one meeting - the meeting can (imho) only be to define the basic concepts of the new charter
(17:53:31) _Nesshof_: Thalion72: agreed, and maybe to draft a rough proposal
(17:53:32) Thalion72: _Nesshof_: in what way? The cvs-list?
(17:53:51) _Nesshof_: Thalion72: that's the question, how is active contributor defined ?
(17:53:56) _Nesshof_: especially for code
(17:54:25) Thalion72: _Nesshof_: that's why I asked to foward this question to developers :)
(17:54:34) _Nesshof_: imho an active contributor would be somebody who is constantly contributing code via cws
(17:54:49) Thalion72: yes
(17:54:56) _Nesshof_: ah, now I understood, will then today follow up on the list
(17:55:28) Thalion72: ok .. I'll subsribe to dev@ooo (but only for silten reading)
(17:55:32) Thalion72: (silent)
(17:55:36) ***_Nesshof_ will do this right now while waiting for the rest
(17:55:58) Thalion72: Thanks!
(17:58:41) mhu: wait for what?
(17:59:15) Thalion72: for some other Council Members to join
(17:59:45) mhu: hmm, do we know that anyone will actually join?
(18:00:47) Thalion72: nobody sent excuses
(18:01:01) CorNouws: mhu: only heared from Pavel that he cannot join
(18:01:11) mhu: I'm just asking, because I have a time slot for this meeting in my calendar, and time is slipping away and so will the time slot. When it's over I will leave.
(18:01:19) Thalion72: maybe we should really start to remove council members due to inactivity ;)
(18:01:34) Thalion72: mhu: I will leave in 30 Minutes
(18:02:28) mhu: Yes, I will leave in 30min as well. Then the scheduled hour is over. Otherwise we don't need a schedule.
(18:02:38) CorNouws: Can we try to plan a f2f meeting? I trust that won't be too soon, so we can discuss other necessary thing before...
(18:03:15) CorNouws: (Speedy will be my nick-name in future ;) )
(18:03:41) mhu: I think Stefan already proposed to have it in Hamburg; that makes it easy for me to accept any date / time for that meeting (except OOoCon).
(18:04:02) stx12: CorNouws: yes, i would be glad to see everybody before OOoCon f2f. i tried to start this last meeting; but we switched from one location to the other; one date to the other
(18:04:04) mhu: s/any/almost any/
(18:04:13) _Nesshof_: Thalion72: post done on dev@ooo
(18:04:20) CorNouws: Hamburg is OK for me
(18:04:25) Thalion72: mhu: Hamburg would be quite easy for me ..only problem is that I'm hardly abel to attend at regular busines days
(18:05:06) _Nesshof_: Thalion72: a saturday morning ?
(18:05:10) CorNouws: Only other proposed place was Bolzano, mentioned by Louis, who later realised that it is far from the air port
(18:05:31) mhu: weekends? okay, some of them are already planned for other stuff (and I wont be in Hamburg then)
(18:05:48) Thalion72: CorNouws: Louis Proposed Denmark afair - but this would be to far for me
(18:06:05) Thalion72: _Nesshof_: Weekend would be ok with me
(18:06:15) stx12: louis will be in bolzano; but i guess no one else from the sunnies in hamburg
(18:06:20) _Nesshof_: isnt louis in Hamburg end of October ?
(18:06:42) stx12: yes, during fall break - when I'm on vacation
(18:08:07) CorNouws: Only Saturday blocked for me in October is 25th
(18:08:21) stx12: louis will be in Hamburg 24/25 10. (vacation are from 13.10. - 25.10.)
(18:08:41) Thalion72: 11.10 is blocked for me
(18:08:52) CorNouws: October 25 is one of the feww FLOSS events I attend :-)
(18:09:01) Thalion72: last week of october would be fine with me
(18:09:35) CorNouws: Thalion72: you mean during the week?
(18:09:41) mhu: yes, I think I can manage the time oct 25 - nov 2 also.
(18:10:08) Thalion72: CorNouws: yes (I youst realiced, that I filed vacation for this week but have no actual plans)
(18:10:41) CorNouws: Blocked for me in that time are Saturday25 and Monday 27
(18:10:50) _Nesshof_: end of october is quite late if want to have someting prepared in time with OOoCon
(18:10:59) CorNouws: _Nesshof_: Agree
(18:11:23) Thalion72: Same for me
(18:11:24) mhu: yes, and I am flying out to Beijing on Nov 2. (or so)
(18:11:33) CorNouws: During a weekend earlier, means that Louis cannot join (at the least)
(18:12:00) CorNouws: (that was a question)
(18:13:24) Thalion72: hmm .. how about 3rd of october, as no one from habur will be at Bozen?
(18:13:49) stx12: without louis then...
(18:14:09) CorNouws: Friday 3 or Saturday 4?
(18:17:47) _Nesshof_: Thalion72: fine with me
(18:18:01) ***stx12 tries to find his wife...
(18:18:22) Thalion72: CorNouws: both is ok with me
(18:21:58) Thalion72: ok, I'll note Friday 3rd / Saturday 4th on my private agenda. Let's see, who is able to join
(18:23:37) _Nesshof_: Thalion72: ok
(18:23:41) mhu: okay, I could reserve oct 3rd / 4th also.
(18:23:52) CorNouws: me to
(18:26:12) Thalion72: ok, I think we should inform the rest via mail and triy to prepare the meeting on list
(18:26:21) CorNouws: Thalion72: +1
(18:26:36) mhu: +1
(18:27:08) ***Thalion72 has to leave now
(18:27:10) Thalion72: bye ...
(18:27:43) CorNouws: I promise to do some (basic) preparations for the 25-9 meeting, to give some more structure..
(18:27:50) CorNouws: Bye André
(18:27:54) _Nesshof_: bz
(18:27:59) ***mhu can stay online, but needs to do other stuff (time slot over)
(18:29:21) CorNouws: I'm not sure if we can effectively discuss / decide anything now. Glad we came further with the f2f meeting, so for mee it's OK for now..
(18:29:54) stx12: yes, see you...