Difference between revisions of "Community Council/Minutes 2007"

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This page archives the old meeting minutes of the Community Council.

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• Agenda for the next meeting
  
• Minutes of more current meetings
  

2007-12-06

Agenda

See The OpenOffice.org Community Council Agenda

• from last meeting:
• reviewing action items assigned
• status of criteria for certification
• adding nonvoting members
• trademark
• Fosdem 2008 funding

at project leads List, LSP suggested to assign travel funds for fosdem 2008

Eric Bachard asked for funding (in case his presentation is accepted). Cost for travel and will lodging be around 300 EUR (400 if booked short before the event)

• account of AB meeting
• new mission statement

Attendees

• Sophie Gautier (sophi)
• Martin Hollmichel (_Nesshof__)
• André Schnabel (Thalion72)

Absent:

• Pavel Janík
• Matthias Huetsch
• Laurent Godard
• Louis Suarez-Potts
• John McCreesh

Activity Items

• Sophie: give more detailed update about certification criteria activities on the mailing list at the weekend

done: see Sophie's mail

• Andre: publish the Advisory Board meeting minutes (with comment that Zaheda did not comment the minutes yet) by the weekend

done: see Documents & Files - AB meeting minutes

• Martin: send proposal for a budget to the council list by the weekend

Minutes

The IRC log for the last meeting is at Community_Council_Minutes_20071206.

• because we had trouble to agree on a time for the meeting only three members were present. Present members agreed to go through the Activity Items and some of the Agenda Items.

• status of criteria for certification (Sophie)
  • the work has just begun this week at the certification list
  • we have first contributions at the certification issue (several people including Leif Lodahl and Franz Jakob are working on that)
  • Sophie will report more details via council mailing list at the weekend

• account of AB meeting
  • Sophie got the 4th version of the minutes today. Not all attendees have commented the minutes (Zaheda is missing)
  • We are going to publish the minutes at the council website (AI for André)
  • Info from Sophie: OOoSCA addendum draft should be available next week for review by the AB
  • Info from Sophie: for information next AB meeting is on 17th of December

• funding / budget of Team OOo (AI from last meeting)
  • Martin is working on a draft for a budget (income / spendings of Team OOo and how to use it within OOo)
  • Martin will post the draft by the weekend to the council list

• new mission statement
  • the new Mission Statement is actively discussed at the wiki.

• other agenda items (adding nonvoting members, trademark, Fosdem 2008 funding) have been postponed, as this would need more input from other council members

Next Meeting

Tentatively scheduled for Wednesday 2008-01-09

2007-11-22

Agenda

see The OpenOffice.org Community Council Agenda#2007-11-22

Attendees

• Martin Hollmichel (_Nesshof__)
• Stefan Taxhet (stx12)
• Sophie Gautier (sophi)
• Pavel Janík (paveljanik)
• Matthias Huetsch (mhu)
• Laurent Godard (lgodard)
• Louis Suarez-Potts (louis_to)

• Absent: John McCreesh
• André Schnabel

Action Items

Minutes

The IRC log for the last meeting is at Community_Council_Minutes_20071122. Minutes to follow, to be located on the same page. Not all the agenda items were dealt with the time allotted, 1.5 hours. These items will be addressed the next meeting.

Next Meeting

2007-10-17

Agenda

Attendees

Activity Items

Minutes

Nothing significant happened on 17 October during the meeting: absentees. Work was done via mail list

Next Meeting

November 22, 14:00 UTC or some other friendly time

2007-09-18

Barcelona in-person meeting

Attendees

• Stefan Taxhet
• Sophie Gautier
• Pavel Janík
• Matthias Huetsch
• André Schnabel
• Marin Hollmichel
• Michael Meeks (stand-in for Laurent Godard)
• Louis Suarez-Potts (note taker)
• Absent: John McCreesh (conflicting event)

Activity Items

• AI: Sophie to contact candidates for creating the support/certification criteria. Discussions can be held on the public certification list in documentation project.
• AI: LSP: start elections for CCR
• AI: LSP: ask at trademark list for reasons to actively defend trademark (would we loose trademark, if we do not defend it?)

Minutes

• Note: We used—or tried to—the wiki for the agenda this meeting. That did not work out.
• Elections
  • Proposal: To start them immediately after OOoCon, beginning with the Community Contributor followed shortly (two weeks later) with other CC elections. As usual, we will announce elections to all the major lists.
  • Action: accepted
• Trademark
  • Synopsis of the issues regarding the trademark: status quo of team OpenOffice.org e.V. Owning US trademark and Sun the defending it elsewhere.
  • question about reasons to sell trademark to sun arose. Possible reason: we would loose trademark if we do not defend it (Team OOo who actually owns the TM in US does not have the ressource to defend it)
  • Proposal: to vote to continue discussions on the above point—status quo.--on the trademark list.
  • Action: let's discuss it more on the list and find out precisely from Sun the legal issues at stake.
• Training and certification yes, this again.
  • Proposal: to clarify the issue. ECDL and others want to certify users of OOo and the issue is, how do we participate. Drafting criteria has not worked out: no one wants to do it. But if we want to postion OpenOffice.org so that it s relevant, it seems needed.
  • AI Sophie inquire about funding someone to drive the criteria for payment. The CC would provide the funds via Team OpenOffice.org.

Other items

• Do we need to change the structure and charter?
  • Action: There was a fair amount of discussion on the issue and the answer was no. Of the things that were suggested (see below) the changes were procedural, not substantive. The issue was that we need to enjoin participation by the council members. It's too easy for things to go slack. Regarding a change of the Council due to new companies joining the community, it was discussed, that this would rather imply a new board instead of adding companies to the concil.
• After discussion, in which we even re-read the Charter, we agreed on the following:
  • Timeframe must be stipulated in the message to discuss@council (if a council member fails to vode within the timeframe she is considered as "Absent from Council Participation" as written at pt. VI n of the Council Charter)
  • We keep with consensus (if one member continously blockes votes, this might be considered as misconduct and dealt wiht according pt. IV, b, iv, iii of the coincil charter)
  • Use wiki to post agenda, minutes
  • Drop agenda@council and use a wiki page, the last week's minutes; minutes would also be posted to the date titled page and linked to from the usual places, such as the OOo logon page.
• We also more tentatively agreed to have standard agenda items:
  • finances
  • community events
  • And we agreed, provisionally to hold meetings once a month at minimum but also whenever there are pressing issues
• We also discussed the possibility of including new permanent members, in the same capacity as Stefan, but the conclusion was that though this may be in fact what occurs, it's at the moment hypothetical occasion,.