Community Council/Agenda

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Upcoming Meeting

Date: 2010-08-12 (Derived from the Community Council Meeting Calendar)

Time: 18.30 UTC (click on the link to show world clock times)

Location: IRC

Agenda and Work Status

The following table represents the agenda of the upcoming meeting and the current work status of topics / action items. Working with this table is described in the Community Council Meeting Guidelines.

Last Update
List of Action Items of previous meeting for approval
Refresh Incubator and NLC Project processes
  • No new proposal available. Louis will work on that.
  • Next steps: Will be discussed in next meeting.
Publicize the open slot at the start of the CC meetings
  • History:
    • Proposal had been presented on March 30th and agreed on
    • Martin to prepare announcement on discuss before next meeting -- AI transferred to Jürgen
  • Activities:
  • After the first session, improvements required for:
    • Naming seems to be ambiguous (QA and Q&A are already project names, proposals: "Ask the Community Council", "Discuss with the Community Council", "Community and Council",  "Questions-and-Answers Session")
    • Wider announcement of the Questions-and-Answers session (proposal: discuss@ooo, dev@ooo, NLCs should also announce it, Blog?)
    • Exact begin of the open slot (it was unclear whether it should start 30 minutes before the official CC session or starts at the usual CC time)
  • Next Steps: Ask Juergen to work on the improvements.
  • Updated the meeting guidelines and change the name of our public session, Meet_the_Community_Council|Meet the Community Council. Add a note for a public reminder and provide an initial template for the reminder (Public Invitation Reminder Template).
Talk to Education Project Leads about structure and remit
John, Cor
  • Cor to prepare a draft and present it to the Community Council. Nothing done yet.
  • Next steps: Will be discussed in next meeting.
Talk to NLC about ‘NLC of the Month’ for OOo Newsletter
  • Inteview with the Irish team has been done. No further information available by his deputy (Leif).
  • Next steps: Few projects agree to respond to the interview for the NLC project of the month. This month the Hungarian team will be highlighted for obvious reasons, and in September the Italian community is scheduled.
Community situation
  • What do we see, where are we, what are we going to do about it.
  • Activities:
    • All CC members are asked to think about it and Cor will prepare a proposal for an detailed agenda.
    • Leif already collected some issues (e.g. rare communication via blogs) and will send that to Cor.
  • Next Steps: Proposal that the CC will work on that at the OOoCon in Budapest.
    • Cor send a mail on 2010-08-12 with some items for the agenda.

Missing OOo desktop presence

Christoph, Stefan 2010-09-21
  • Request by a community member to discuss / decide the following question: "Why should give away it's presence on the user's desktop - the main place to be recognized by the people - only to support the "application independency" of ODF? A Sun employee stated "The idea of supporting ODF as a application independent open standard is the priority." This leads / will lead to changes with regard to the document and application icon design. The current ODF "only" icons seem to be undesired by the community. Original request to the CC on ooo-discuss: initial mail (2010-04-14), full mail thread
  • Discussion:
    • 2010-04-29: Some members stated that the request should be "more actionable" and "better framed" to be decided by the community. Proposal has been made to forward the request to council-discuss to propose how to proceed.
    • 2010-05-02: Christoph forwarded the request to the CC mailing list. A first discussion took place.
    • 2010-05-20: Intensive discussion about the request and how to address it. Stefan and Christoph agreed to work out a request to the ODF Icons team to iterate on the design and/or processes. Maybe a "refreshed" team which may provide an agreed-upon proposal. Stefan stated that there shouldn't be any dependency to the next/other releases.
    • 2010-06-08: Some opinions have been requested from people who initially worked in the branding initiative. Either there isn't feedback yet, or the people aren't currently available to support the i-Team. Ongoing ...
    • 2010-06-30: Still ongoing ...
    • 2010-07-22: Andreas provided some insight what currently happens within Oracle. The topic "icons" is currently addressed ...
      • A discussion took place with Michael Bemmer and other people at Oracle.
      • Outcome: Oracle marketing made a decision that is supposed to be communicated shortly. --> Icons will be redesigned, for the long run, with constraints.
      • Motivation: The current design fails with regard to usability aspects. --> Redesign is intended with focus on usability.
      • Constraints: The activity will be run open with all necessary involvements.
      • Question to Andreas/Martin to discuss whether the official statement may be discussed with the community before it is going to be published "officially".
      • Decision to keep this CC Action Item open until there is more visible activity.
    • 2010-08-12: Marketing contact is in vacation, and information also depends on others at Oracle. More information defitively to come at the OOoCon, presentation "Brand Refresh and new Brand Initiative".
    • 2010-09-21: Request for update sent to Oracle, nothing new yet.
  • Next steps: Waiting for the reaction by Oracle, either getting in touch with the community or an official announcement.

Minutes of Previous Meetings

To be found here.

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