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*30 min Public Questions-and-Answers Session has been done, see [http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council_Log_20100722#Public_Questions-and-Answers_Session meeting minutes]<br>
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| Publicize the open slot at the start of the CC meetings <br>  
 
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*proposal had been presented on March 30th and agreed on<br>  
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*History:
*Martin to prepare announcement on discuss before next meeting<br>  
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**Proposal had been presented on March 30th and agreed on<br>  
*transferred to Jürgen
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**Martin to prepare announcement on discuss before next meeting -- AI transferred to Jürgen
*add new section under '''Procedures''' in the meeting guideline, see [[Community Council/Meeting Guidelines#Public_QA|Meeting Guidelines - Public QA]]  
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*Activities:<br>  
*add 2 new public QA session in the meeting calendar, see [[Community Council/Calendar#Meetings_in_2010|Meetings in 2010]]  
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**add new section under '''Procedures''' in the meeting guideline, see [[Community Council/Meeting Guidelines#Public_QA|Meeting Guidelines - Public QA]]  
*post information email to council-discuss  
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**add 2 new public QA session in the meeting calendar, see [[Community Council/Calendar#Meetings_in_2010|Meetings in 2010]]  
*thinking that the AI is done
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**post information email to council-discuss  
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*After the first session, improvements required for:
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**Naming seems to be ambiguous (QA and Q&amp;A are already project names, proposals: "Ask the Community Council", "Discuss with the Community Council", "Community and Council",&nbsp; "Questions-and-Answers Session")
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**Wider announcement of the Questions-and-Answers session (proposal: discuss@ooo, dev@ooo, NLCs should also announce it, Blog?)
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**Exact begin of the open slot (it was unclear whether it should start 30 minutes before the official CC session or starts at the usual CC time)
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*Next Steps: Ask Juergen to work on the improvements.
  
 
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*What do we see, where are we, what are we going to do about it.<br>  
 
*What do we see, where are we, what are we going to do about it.<br>  
*proposed to work on in Budapest. All CC members are asked to think about it and Cor will prepare a proposal for an detailed agenda.
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*Activities:
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**All CC members are asked to think about it and Cor will prepare a proposal for an detailed agenda.<br>
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**Leif already collected some issues (e.g. rare communication via blogs) and will send that to Cor.<br>
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*Next Steps: Proposal that the CC&nbsp;will work on that at the OOoCon in Budapest.
  
 
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| CC Election (Product Development Representative)  
 
| CC Election (Product Development Representative)  
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*In the election [http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Elections/2010-03 2010-03], one of the three roles hasn't been confirmed. We'll re-do the whole election cycle for the "Product Development Representative".<u><br></u>  
 
*In the election [http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Elections/2010-03 2010-03], one of the three roles hasn't been confirmed. We'll re-do the whole election cycle for the "Product Development Representative".<u><br></u>  
 
*Status:  
 
*Status:  
 
**Overview: See current state of the election [[Community Council/Elections/2010-06|2010-06]].  
 
**Overview: See current state of the election [[Community Council/Elections/2010-06|2010-06]].  
**Current Phase: Finalized. Andreas Bartel has been elected.<br>  
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**Current Phase: Finalized. Andreas Bartel has been elected. Congratulations&nbsp;:-)<br>  
 
*<u></u>Next steps: None<br>
 
*<u></u>Next steps: None<br>
  
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| Christoph, Stefan  
 
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*Request by a community member to discuss / decide the following question: "''Why should OpenOffice.org give away it's presence on the user's desktop - the main place to be recognized by the people - only to support the "application independency" of ODF?'' A Sun employee stated "The idea of supporting ODF as a application independent open standard is the priority." This leads / will lead to changes with regard to the document and application icon design. The current ODF "only" icons seem to be undesired by the community. Original request to the CC on ooo-discuss: [http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=65958 initial mail (2010-04-14)], [http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?listName=discuss&from=2361081&to=2361081&count=28&by=thread&first=1&windowSize=1000 full mail thread]  
 
*Request by a community member to discuss / decide the following question: "''Why should OpenOffice.org give away it's presence on the user's desktop - the main place to be recognized by the people - only to support the "application independency" of ODF?'' A Sun employee stated "The idea of supporting ODF as a application independent open standard is the priority." This leads / will lead to changes with regard to the document and application icon design. The current ODF "only" icons seem to be undesired by the community. Original request to the CC on ooo-discuss: [http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=65958 initial mail (2010-04-14)], [http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?listName=discuss&from=2361081&to=2361081&count=28&by=thread&first=1&windowSize=1000 full mail thread]  
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**2010-05-02: Christoph forwarded the [http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=2564 request to the CC&nbsp;mailing list]. A first discussion took place.  
 
**2010-05-02: Christoph forwarded the [http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=2564 request to the CC&nbsp;mailing list]. A first discussion took place.  
 
**2010-05-20: Intensive discussion about the request and how to address it. Stefan and Christoph agreed to work out a request to the ODF Icons team to iterate on the design and/or processes. Maybe a "refreshed" team which may provide an agreed-upon proposal. Stefan stated that there shouldn't be any dependency to the next/other releases.  
 
**2010-05-20: Intensive discussion about the request and how to address it. Stefan and Christoph agreed to work out a request to the ODF Icons team to iterate on the design and/or processes. Maybe a "refreshed" team which may provide an agreed-upon proposal. Stefan stated that there shouldn't be any dependency to the next/other releases.  
**2010-06-08: Some opinions have been requested by people who initially worked in the branding initiative. Either there isn't feedback yet, or the people aren't currently available to support the i-Team. Ongoing ...  
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**2010-06-08: Some opinions have been requested from people who initially worked in the branding initiative. Either there isn't feedback yet, or the people aren't currently available to support the i-Team. Ongoing ...  
 
**2010-06-30: Still ongoing ...  
 
**2010-06-30: Still ongoing ...  
*Next steps: Christoph will formulate a proposal to be discussed with Stefan. This will be presented to the CC on the CC discuss mailing list.<br>
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**2010-07-22: Andreas provided some insight what currently happens within Oracle. The topic "icons" is currently addressed ...
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***A discussion took place with Michael Bemmer and other people at Oracle.
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***Outcome: Oracle marketing made a decision that is supposed to be communicated shortly. --&gt; Icons will be redesigned, for the long run, with constraints.
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***Motivation: The current design fails with regard to usability aspects. --&gt; Redesign is intended with focus on usability.
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***Constraints: The activity will be run open with all necessary involvements.
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***Question to Andreas/Martin to discuss whether the official statement may be discussed with the community before it is going to be published "officially".
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***Decision to keep this CC Action Item open until there is more visible activity.
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*Next steps: Waiting for the reaction by Oracle, either getting in touch with the community or an official announcement.<br>
  
 
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Upcoming Meeting

Date: 2010-08-12 (Derived from the Community Council Meeting Calendar)

Time: 18.30 UTC (click on the link to show world clock times)

Location: IRC

Agenda and Work Status

The following table represents the agenda of the upcoming meeting and the current work status of topics / action items. Working with this table is described in the Community Council Meeting Guidelines.

ID
Topic
Status
Responsible
Last Update
Details
none
Questions-and-Answers
none
all
none
  • 30 min Public Questions-and-Answers Session has been done, see meeting minutes
0
List of Action Items of previous meeting for approval
none
all
2010-07-01
  • Meeting minutes of previous meeting at Minutes#2010-07-01
  • Result: Meeting minutes have been approved in the CC meeting.
2010-03-04#2
Refresh Incubator and NLC Project processes
Accepted
Louis
2010-03-18
  • No new proposal available. Louis will work on that.
  • Next steps: Will be discussed in next meeting.
2010-03-04#3
Publicize the open slot at the start of the CC meetings
Accepted
Juergen
2010-07-23
  • History:
    • Proposal had been presented on March 30th and agreed on
    • Martin to prepare announcement on discuss before next meeting -- AI transferred to Jürgen
  • Activities:
  • After the first session, improvements required for:
    • Naming seems to be ambiguous (QA and Q&A are already project names, proposals: "Ask the Community Council", "Discuss with the Community Council", "Community and Council",  "Questions-and-Answers Session")
    • Wider announcement of the Questions-and-Answers session (proposal: discuss@ooo, dev@ooo, NLCs should also announce it, Blog?)
    • Exact begin of the open slot (it was unclear whether it should start 30 minutes before the official CC session or starts at the usual CC time)
  • Next Steps: Ask Juergen to work on the improvements.
2010-03-04#6
Talk to Education Project Leads about structure and remit
Stalled
John, Cor
2010-03-18
  • Cor to prepare a draft and present it to the Community Council. Nothing done yet.
  • Next steps: Will be discussed in next meeting.
2010-04-01#7
Talk to NLC about ‘NLC of the Month’ for OOo Newsletter
Accepted
Charles
2010-04-01
  • Inteview with the Irish team has been done. No further information available by his deputy (Leif).
  • Next steps: Charles has scheduled the next project to be interviewed (the Sinhala project). He would also like to discuss how to extend the media impact of these interviews.
2010-04-01#1
Community situation
Accepted
All
2010-07-22
  • What do we see, where are we, what are we going to do about it.
  • Activities:
    • All CC members are asked to think about it and Cor will prepare a proposal for an detailed agenda.
    • Leif already collected some issues (e.g. rare communication via blogs) and will send that to Cor.
  • Next Steps: Proposal that the CC will work on that at the OOoCon in Budapest.
2010-04-29#1 CC Election (Product Development Representative) Finalized Christoph 2010-07-22
  • In the election 2010-03, one of the three roles hasn't been confirmed. We'll re-do the whole election cycle for the "Product Development Representative".
  • Status:
    • Overview: See current state of the election 2010-06.
    • Current Phase: Finalized. Andreas Bartel has been elected. Congratulations :-)
  • Next steps: None
2010-04-29#2

Missing OOo desktop presence

Accepted
Christoph, Stefan 2010-07-22
  • Request by a community member to discuss / decide the following question: "Why should OpenOffice.org give away it's presence on the user's desktop - the main place to be recognized by the people - only to support the "application independency" of ODF? A Sun employee stated "The idea of supporting ODF as a application independent open standard is the priority." This leads / will lead to changes with regard to the document and application icon design. The current ODF "only" icons seem to be undesired by the community. Original request to the CC on ooo-discuss: initial mail (2010-04-14), full mail thread
  • Discussion:
    • 2010-04-29: Some members stated that the request should be "more actionable" and "better framed" to be decided by the community. Proposal has been made to forward the request to council-discuss to propose how to proceed.
    • 2010-05-02: Christoph forwarded the request to the CC mailing list. A first discussion took place.
    • 2010-05-20: Intensive discussion about the request and how to address it. Stefan and Christoph agreed to work out a request to the ODF Icons team to iterate on the design and/or processes. Maybe a "refreshed" team which may provide an agreed-upon proposal. Stefan stated that there shouldn't be any dependency to the next/other releases.
    • 2010-06-08: Some opinions have been requested from people who initially worked in the branding initiative. Either there isn't feedback yet, or the people aren't currently available to support the i-Team. Ongoing ...
    • 2010-06-30: Still ongoing ...
    • 2010-07-22: Andreas provided some insight what currently happens within Oracle. The topic "icons" is currently addressed ...
      • A discussion took place with Michael Bemmer and other people at Oracle.
      • Outcome: Oracle marketing made a decision that is supposed to be communicated shortly. --> Icons will be redesigned, for the long run, with constraints.
      • Motivation: The current design fails with regard to usability aspects. --> Redesign is intended with focus on usability.
      • Constraints: The activity will be run open with all necessary involvements.
      • Question to Andreas/Martin to discuss whether the official statement may be discussed with the community before it is going to be published "officially".
      • Decision to keep this CC Action Item open until there is more visible activity.
  • Next steps: Waiting for the reaction by Oracle, either getting in touch with the community or an official announcement.


Minutes of Previous Meetings

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