ReleaseStatus Minutes 2007-11-12 IRC log

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(15:00:43) _Nesshof_: xiuzhi: all Sun engineers are not available today
(15:00:43) ja_: hi
(15:01:15) _Nesshof_: 2.3.1 release status:
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(15:02:05) _Nesshof_: I nominated the last cws, so that the build can start soon
(15:02:16) _Nesshof_: do we have any other issues left for 2.3.1 ?
(15:02:54) rtimm: _Nesshof_: Have you read Frank's mail on releases?
(15:03:19) rtimm: That one concerning issue 83313 and issue 82967
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(15:03:26) _Nesshof_: what about issue 75877
(15:03:27) IZBot: Word processor DEFECT RESOLVED FIXED P3 PDF Export removes form fields http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=82967
(15:03:36) IZBot: Spreadsheet DEFECT NEW P3 Slow reaction in Conditional Formatting http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=75877
(15:05:13) paveljanik: only P3s?
(15:06:12) UweL: issue 82967 seems to be a regression without keyword
(15:06:18) IZBot: Word processor DEFECT RESOLVED FIXED P3 PDF Export removes form fields http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=82967
(15:07:07) rtimm: My question reading that email is do we have a problem in tracking issues?
(15:08:09) UweL: my question is " is it really a blocker?"
(15:08:11) rtimm: but I must confess I do not know much about the special cases, perhaps everything went OK ...
(15:08:37) _Nesshof_: set target 2.4 for issue 75877
(15:08:48) IZBot: Spreadsheet DEFECT NEW P3 Slow reaction in Conditional Formatting http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=75877
(15:09:16) ja_: For bug 75877 I'm asking myself how a user can set a target when he's not providing a developer to fix it. From my POV Niklas should have a look at the issue and fix it for 2.4
(15:09:56) _Nesshof_: rtimm: we just have a problem in ansering those request
(15:10:08) _Nesshof_: rtimm: nobody feels responsible
(15:10:24) paveljanik: we expect them on releases@ not in IZ. in IZ, you can set the request as a blocker yourself 8)
(15:10:57) _Nesshof_: rtimm: so if nobody answers the "just adding to meta issue" noboday seem to take this into consideration
(15:11:03) _Nesshof_: paveljanik: correct
(15:12:18) _Nesshof_: have we written down the rules somewhere ?
(15:12:27) paveljanik: I do not remember
(15:13:12) _Nesshof_: we should add those rules as a "howto" to the release pages, e.g. in http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease231
(15:14:02) rtimm: _Nesshof_: good idea
(15:14:03) _Nesshof_: we also should list the meta task there
(15:14:36) _Nesshof_: anybody taking this as an AI ?
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(15:15:26) _Nesshof_: stefan__b seems to volunteer :-)
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(15:15:48) _Nesshof_: ok, I will add this
(15:15:51) stefan__b: _Nesshof_, for what? :-)
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(15:16:14) UweL: hush :-)
(15:16:18) stefan__b: just silently listening...
(15:16:39) _Nesshof_: so we agree on accepting no further issues for 2.3.1 ?
(15:17:16) rtimm: I do
(15:17:20) ja_: +1
(15:17:27) paveljanik: +1
(15:17:30) _Nesshof_: there are still no verfied localisation issues, are they covered all by localisation26 ?
(15:17:44) Fridrich: +1
(15:17:59) UweL: +1
(15:17:59) rtimm: localisation26 only holds arabic, AFAIK
(15:18:27) kso: +1
(15:18:32) bettina-h: +1
(15:18:34) _Nesshof_: rtimm: so what about all the open localisation issue with target 2.3.1 ?
(15:18:43) _Nesshof_: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/buglist.cgi?Submit+query=Submit+query&issue_type=DEFECT&issue_type=ENHANCEMENT&issue_type=FEATURE&issue_type=TASK&issue_type=PATCH&issue_status=UNCONFIRMED&issue_status=NEW&issue_status=STARTED&issue_status=REOPENED&target_milestone=OOo+2.3.1&email1=&emailtype1=exact&emailassigned_to1=1&email2=&emailtype2=exact&emailreporter2=1&issueidtype=include&issue_id=&changed (15:18:45) _Nesshof_: in=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=&chfieldvalue=&short_desc=&short_desc_type=allwords&long_desc=&long_desc_type=allwords&issue_file_loc=&issue_file_loc_type=fulltext&status_whiteboard=&status_whiteboard_type=fulltext&keywords=&keywords_type=anytokens&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time
(15:18:53) xiuzhi: +1
(15:18:57) blauwal: +1
(15:19:46) _Nesshof_: those issues don't seem to be registered with any cws
(15:20:03) _Nesshof_: paveljanik: do you have an idea on how to proceed with those ?
(15:20:23) Fridrich: IZBot: tiny http://www.openoffice.org/issues/buglist.cgi?Submit+query=Submit+query&issue_type=DEFECT&issue_type=ENHANCEMENT&issue_type=FEATURE&issue_type=TASK&issue_type=PATCH&issue_status=UNCONFIRMED&issue_status=NEW&issue_status=STARTED&issue_status=REOPENED&target_milestone=OOo+2.3.1&email1=&emailtype1=exact&emailassigned_to1=1&email2=&emailtype2=exact&emailreporter2=1&issueidtype=include&issue_id=&changedin=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&c (15:20:25) IZBot: http://tinyurl.com/2xva2c
(15:20:59) ***_Nesshof_ again has learned something today, thanks Fridrich
(15:21:24) paveljanik: _Nesshof_: we have ask them all about the status.
(15:21:26) paveljanik: I'll do so.
(15:22:42) Fridrich: _Nesshof_: gern geschehen
(15:25:19) MechtiIde: _Nesshof_, I lood at it and saw that there are many issues from l10n DE
(15:25:40) MechtiIde: there is also a meta issue for this part
(15:26:08) paveljanik: MechtiIde: can you please ask about them?
(15:26:16) MechtiIde: I'm the Reporter for some Issue
(15:26:18) paveljanik: I mailed jrhemipour about it.
(15:26:43) paveljanik: The comment "will be fixed with issue #ivvvv#" is really bad...
(15:26:53) MechtiIde: So I think it is possible that I look for it and closed it with the comment to the meta issue 82195
(15:27:00) IZBot: l10n DEFECT RESOLVED FIXED P3 [DE] UI and online help fixes german for 2.3.1 http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=82195
(15:27:22) _Nesshof_: ok, we wait some more hours for an answer about how to deal with them and heading tuesday morning to start the build
(15:27:54) _Nesshof_: this build then will result in the first release candidate for 2.3.1
(15:28:17) MechtiIde: paveljanik, jrahemipour is on journey so I don't know when she can read mails
(15:28:34) paveljanik: MechtiIde: ok, can you process these issues? ;-)
(15:28:35) MechtiIde: I can speak also with Andre about this
(15:29:08) paveljanik: thanks.
(15:29:38) _Nesshof_: anything else regarding 2.3.1 release ?
(15:29:52) MechtiIde: Is it time enough to do it on evening? paveljanik
(15:29:59) paveljanik: MechtiIde: sure.
(15:30:06) paveljanik: _Nesshof_: not from my side
(15:30:26) _Nesshof_: this week there will be also 2.4 Feature freeze
(15:30:52) _Nesshof_: there seems a bunch of feature cws still in progress for this
(15:31:01) paveljanik: ups, /me have to finish the dictionaries :-(
(15:31:17) _Nesshof_: UweL: do you have an overview if we are able to cover them
(15:31:42) _Nesshof_: paveljanik: I would like to ask to get an exception for the dictionaries
(15:31:58) paveljanik: _Nesshof_: I'll finish it this week.
(15:32:01) paveljanik: 8)
(15:32:08) _Nesshof_: paveljanik: I expect some expedited approval for dictionaries this week
(15:32:30) paveljanik: ah, OK, then I'll wait and +1 for exception for dicts as they do not affect much ;-)
(15:32:38) UweL: not exactly, way too much
(15:33:14) thorstenziehm: _Nesshof_ : currently 23 CWS are in state 'ready for QA', 11 in state 'new' which contains features or help relevant changes
(15:33:23) _Nesshof_: usaully there is no tranlation involved in integrating those dictionaries, so lets extend the deadline for those until Nov. 29th ?
(15:33:56) _Nesshof_: thorstenziehm: quite impressive number
(15:34:11) MechtiIde: can someone tell me if there is a testbuild including localisationcws20071022
(15:34:24) MechtiIde: I'm not so firm to look for it
(15:34:26) MechtiIde: :(
(15:35:17) _Nesshof_: rtimm: any information about this ?
(15:36:03) ***rtimm is asking Ivo ...
(15:36:23) thorstenziehm: I don't think, that we can approve all CWS in time
(15:36:47) UweL: me too :-(
(15:37:01) _Nesshof_: thorstenziehm: do you have candidates which a definitly in question ?
(15:37:30) rtimm: MechtiIde: according to Ivo, yes, there is one available
(15:37:34) thorstenziehm: The 11 CWS which aren't in QA now, are on highest risk!
(15:37:43) rtimm: uploaded to somewhere
(15:37:45) MechtiIde: rtimm, I found the entry in EIS
(15:38:17) MechtiIde: It is in m8 so I can set fixed, verified and closed if all things are ok
(15:38:20) rtimm: MechtiIde: you may ask Ivo directly if you need the URL
(15:38:21) _Nesshof_: thorstenziehm: do you have an eis query at hand ?
(15:38:48) MechtiIde: rtimm, it is in OOG680_m8
(15:39:09) thorstenziehm: Also there are some CWS for Framework (fwk72, fwk74, fwk78) which are on risk, because we want to have some enhancements for Extension Manager first (e.g. integration the help system in Extensions)
(15:39:14) rtimm: MechtiIde: Ivo is in #dev.openoffice.org currently
(15:39:43) MechtiIde: I see it thanks rtimm
(15:39:46) ***rtimm seems to be too late ...
(15:40:08) thorstenziehm: The helpcontent CWS hcshareed12 could reach the time line with the help by Andre Schnabel. But it takes also some work here in my team currently
(15:41:22) _Nesshof_: thorstenziehm: so the alternatives are: either to drop some cws or to extend the deadline
(15:41:50) ***_Nesshof_ knows that at least mba likes the wooshing sound of the deadlines passing by
(15:41:54) thorstenziehm: Also some enhancements for report designer are on risk. Because there are 2 big CWS are open (reportdesigner01 - 30 issues, reportdesigner02 -11 issues)
(15:42:15) thorstenziehm: _Nesshof_ : that are the two alternatives for me
(15:43:59) _Nesshof_: thorstenziehm: let's have a detailed look into the cws offline and come with a proposal until tomorrow
(15:44:24) thorstenziehm: _Nesshof_ : fine for me
(15:45:08) _Nesshof_: RE duties this week ?
(15:45:28) blauwal: Same as last week :)
(15:45:34) rtimm: OG680: obo SRC680: rt (me)
(15:45:43) _Nesshof_: ok
(15:45:52) _Nesshof_: anything else for today ?
(15:46:21) _Nesshof_: blauwal: human memory is unrliable
(15:46:33) _Nesshof_: ok, by
(15:46:42) blauwal: bye
(15:46:44) UweL: bye
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(15:46:52) ja_: bye
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(15:47:04) xiuzhi: _Nesshof_:hi