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{{DISPLAYTITLE:Justification and Distribute for Japanese}} =OpenOffice.org= Japanese user basically use spacing in text for title of document and title of table..etc According to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Industrial_Standards Japanese Industrial Standards], We use three type of spacing.it call Even inter-character spacing and Tsumegumi. Office software should be able to use "Fixed inter-character spacing","Even inter-character spacing" and "Tsumegumi". *Requirements for Japanese Text Layout **[http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/NOTE-jlreq-20090604/#en-subheading1_2_3 2.1.3 Principles of Arrangement of Kanji and Kana Characters] a.''Fixed inter-character spacing'': Text set with a fixed size space between each character frame (see [Fig.6]). b. ''Even inter-character spacing'': Text set with equal inter-character spacing between characters on a given line, so that each line is aligned to the same line head and line end (see [Fig.7]). Even inter-character space setting is used in books for unifying the length of table headings with Japanese text (see [Fig.8]). There are also examples (e.g. lists of names) in which parts of a person names receive inter-character spacing. c.''Tsumegumi (kerning / tracking)'': Text is set with negative inter-character space by arranging characters so that a portion of two character frames overlap each other. This is divided further into two types, depending on the methods used for inter-character space reduction. One method involves reducing by the same amount of inter-character space (even tsumegumi or tracking, see [Fig.9]) and the other involves determining the amount of space to reduce based on the distance between the two letter faces of adjacent characters (face tsumegumi or letter face kerning, see [Fig.10]). =Writer= ==Point== # We hope to use furniture more easy way. # We hope to improve ms-filter for compatible. ** We whould like to solve blow problem on this. *** data lost(include layout setting) if it is possible. ==Setuation on Writer== OpenOffice.org Writer is supported enough furniture for make spacing. But it is quite difficult to use. * a. Fixed inter-character spacing * b. Even inter-character spacing * c. Tsumegumi (kerning / tracking) Writer can do all of them by three way. # Set Spacing size by point in Character Dialog->Position/Spacing for all. # Select justified in Paragraph dialog->Alignment->Option:Justified/Last line:Justified for "b" # limited case,Double line layout(Character -> Asian Layout) for "b". # Type and Put the full and half space manually for "a" and "b" However, There are hard to use "1" for "b" and "c". because user have to mind font size ,calculate themselves and set . of cause, they have to recalculate again if change font size. also difficult to find "2" furniture. for example:<BR> I made a sample paper.This is common business layout for Japanese. [[File:Japanese text layout sample20091125.png|200px]] 1)''Title'':<BR> We use "a. Fixed inter-character spacing" in here. It is not so difficult to make it. 2)''Affiliation'':<BR> It have "b.Even inter-character spacing". It use Double line layout(Character -> Asian Layout),it seems work fine. (I putted a two full-space between "指定社員" and "執行役員社員" then,it work.) It may be have a little issue about double line layout. I need more research so I am going to report later. 3)''Name'':<BR> "b.Even inter-character spacing" this place need "c. Tsumegumi (kerning / tracking)" if the name is long. It is not easy to do. 4)''stamp place'':<BR> this is not about spacing. I would like to talk about [http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=105888 i105888 fenced character lost when I use fenced character function on ms-word] *Other sample: **I pick from ministry of finance in Japan. ***http://www.customs.go.jp/toukei/shinbun/trade-st_e/2009/2009104e.pdf [[File:Customs_go_jp_2009104e.png]] **I pick from University(it is common business format) ***http://www.osaka-u.ac.jp/migr/pdf/jp/annai/information/joho/pdf/zaimu/dokuritsukansa(h18).pdf ==Case of Microsoft Word== Microsoft Office have a two furniture for solver. [[File:Jsdp2007_1_0001.png]] * a,b) Fit Text * c) Distributed Paragraph(it seems same furniture on openoffice.org) ===behavior:=== **a,b) Fit Text #Select some character. #Push the Distributed icon on the tool bar. #Open the "Fit text property dialog" #Set the width　by number of character. [[File:MS_Word_Fit_text.png|200px]]<BR>(Fit text property dialog) **c) Distributed Paragraph #High light the Line #Push the Distributed icon on the tool bar. <!-- ==Case of Other Office== Justsystem Ichitaro. one of famous software. ジャストシステムの日本語ワープロ一太郎においては、さらに次の設定を持つ。 段落属性-文字揃え：範囲指定した段落を左端・中央・右端・均等に配置する 段落属性-ジャスティフィケーション：行末を揃えるかどうか設定する。「変更しない」「欧文単語が含まれている行は設定しない」「する」「しない」という設定値を持つ 文字割付：均等割り付けに相当するが、きめ細かな設定ができる。 一太郎2006の文字割付 [[Image:JS_Ichitaro_Distributed.png]] --> ==Glossary of Microsoft Word== {| style="border-spacing:0;" | Distributed Paragraph | | 段落を均等割り付けします。 |- | Fit Text: | | 文字の均等割り付け : |- | Distributed Paragraph | | 段落を均等割り付けします。 |- | Apply Fit Text Property | | 文字列に均等割り付けを設定します。 |} ==Issues== *[http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=90868 i90868 Paragraph alignment 'Distributed' and character alignment 'Fit text'] *[http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=71824 i71824 Need a paragraph alignment Distributed in addition to Justified] *[http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=36408 i36408 Requirements of Japanese Justification] *[http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=105888 i105888 fenced character lost when I use fenced character function on ms-word] ==Misc== *[[Alignment_Distributed]] =Calc= OpenOffice.org calc does not have Distributed furniture. we use Distributed for all of the document especially for financial document. ==Format Cell== *Horizontal ** OpenOffice.org : Default setting "Default(left)" ** MS Excel:Default setting "Default(left)" ** Justsystem Sanshiro:Default setting "Farrow the sheet setting(left)" [[File:Cell_Format_Calc_Horizontal.png|200px]] [[File:Cell_Format_Excel_Horizontal.png|200px]] [[File:Cell_Format_Sanshiro-1.png|200px]] [[File:Cell_Format_Sanshiro-2.png|200px]] {| border=1 !feature !feature(japanese) !Calc !MS-Excel(japanese version) !Comment |- |Default |標準 |X |X |No problem |- |Left |左 |X |X |No problem |- |Center |中央 |X |X |No problem |- |Right |右 |X |X |No problem |- |Justfied |両揃え | - |X |Issue:does not work correctly for Asian Character,work fine for English Character. |- |Filled |塗り潰し/繰り返し |X |X |No problem |- |Center Across Selection |選択範囲内で中央 | - |X |No problem :OpenOffice.org does not have this feature.but if import the excel file,it change to merge cell. It seems no problem. |- |Distributed |均等割り付け | - |X |Issue:OpenOffice.org does not have this feature.if import the excel file,it change to Justified. there is big difference between Justified and Distributed. |} *Vertical ** OpenOffice.org : Default setting "Default(bottom)" ** MS Excel:Default setting "Middle" ** Justsystem Sanshiro:Default setting "Farrow the sheet setting(bottom)" [[File:Cell_Format_Calc_Vertical.png|200px]] [[File:Cell_Format_Excel_Vertical.png|200px]] [[File:Cell_Format_Sanshiro-1.png|200px]] [[File:Cell_Format_Sanshiro-2.png|200px]] {| border=1 !feature !feature(japanese) !Calc !MS-Excel(japanese version) !Comment |- |Default |標準 |X | - |MS-Excel does not have this. |- |Top |上 |X |X |No problem |- |Middle |中央 |X |X |No problem/ |- |bottom |下 |X |X |No problem |- |Justfied |両揃え | - |X |OpenOffice.org does not have this feature. |- |Distributed |均等割り付け | - |X |OpenOffice.org does not have this feature. |} ==for what,we use it and Sample of user scenario== *Justfied *Distributed ==Sample files== [[Media:Sample_Spreadsheet_format_all.xls|listed sample for cell formatting]] ===Horizontal=== *Justfied [[File:Spreadsheet_Format_H_Justfied.png|200px]] [[Media:Sample_Spreadsheet_Format_H_Justfied.xls]] *Center Across Selection [[File:Spreadsheet_Format_H_CAS.png|200px]] [[Media:Sample_Spreadsheet_Format_H_CAS.xls]] *Distributed [[File:Spreadsheet_Format_H_Distributed.png|200px]] [[Media:Sample_Spreadsheet_Format_H_Distributed.xls]] ===Vertical=== *Justfied [[File:Spreadsheet_Format_V_Justfied.png|200px]] [[Media:Sample_Spreadsheet_Format_V_Justfied.xls]] *Distributed [[File:Spreadsheet_Format_V_Distributed.png|200px]] [[Media:Sample_Spreadsheet_Format_V_Distributed.xls]] ==Glossary from Microsoft 2003== {| border=1 || Above || || 上 || || TDB || Windows || Excel || <div align="right">2003</div> |- || Below || || 下 || || TXT || Windows || Excel || <div align="right">2003</div> |- || Left || || 左 || || TXT || Windows || Excel || <div align="right">2003</div> |- || Right || || 右 || || TXT || Windows || Excel || <div align="right">2003</div> |- || Outside End || || 外部 || || TXT || Windows || Excel || <div align="right">2003</div> |- || Inside End || || 内部外側 || || TXT || Windows || Excel || <div align="right">2003</div> |- || Center || || 中央 || || TXT || Windows || Excel || <div align="right">2003</div> |- || Best Fit || || 自動 || || TXT || Windows || Excel || <div align="right">2003</div> |- || Left || || 左詰め || || TXT || Windows || Excel || <div align="right">2003</div> |- || Right || || 右詰め || || LBX || Windows || Excel || <div align="right">2003</div> |- || Fill || || 繰り返し || || LBX || Windows || Excel || <div align="right">2003</div> |- || Justify || || 両端揃え || || LBX || Windows || Excel || <div align="right">2003</div> |- || Center Across Selection || || 選択範囲内で中央 || || LBX || Windows || Excel || <div align="right">2003</div> |- || Top || || 上詰め || || LBX || Windows || Excel || <div align="right">2003</div> |- || Center || || 中央揃え || || LBX || Windows || Excel || <div align="right">2003</div> |- || Bottom || || 下詰め || || LBX || Windows || Excel || <div align="right">2003</div> |- || Distributed || || 均等割り付け || || TXT || Windows || Excel || <div align="right">2003</div> |- || Vary colors by slice || V || 要素を塗り分ける || V || TXT || Windows || Excel || <div align="right">2003</div> |- || Default || || 標準 || || BUT || Windows || Excel || <div align="right">2003</div> |} ==Misc== * From Seagull Research Team 2006(http://ooo-research.good-day.net/?en_top) ** [http://www.ipa.go.jp/software/open/ossc/download/OOo_Requirements_Specifications.pdf Requirements_Specifications(Original)] *** -> I copied this list to wiki:[[User:Foral/Seagull_Research_Team_2006|Requirements]] ** ID 133: An attribute Distributed for cell of Calc ** Report:http://www.ipa.go.jp/software/open/ossc/download/OOo_Research.pdf 最近では、表計算ソフトをワードプロセッサーのように利用したいユーザーも増えている。均等割 付は、特定の幅に文字間隔を広げて均等に配置する書式設定である。タイトルなどで多く用いられ る。Excelでは、図のようにセルに均等割付できる。これには、「セルの書式設定」ダイアログの配 置タブにある「文字の配置」-「横位置」欄で「均等割り付け（インデント）」を選択すると、文字 列がセルの枠内いっぱいに広がる書式となる。Calcでも「セルの書式設定」と同等の「セルのフォー マット」ダイアログがあり、配置タブの「文章の配置」-「横に」欄の選択肢に「均等割り付け」を 設ければよいことになる。 = Graphic application(Impress/Draw) = == Misc == * From Seagull Research Team 2006(http://ooo-research.good-day.net/?en_top) ** [http://www.ipa.go.jp/software/open/ossc/download/OOo_Requirements_Specifications.pdf Requirements_Specifications(Original)] *** -> I copied this list to wiki:[[User:Foral/Seagull_Research_Team_2006|Requirements]] **ID 134: An attribute Distributed for text boxes and shapes in Impress **ID 135: An attribute Distributed for place folder in Impress ** Report:http://www.ipa.go.jp/software/open/ossc/download/OOo_Research.pdf =Ref= * [http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/NOTE-jlreq-20090604/ Requirements for Japanese Text Layout]

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