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		<id>https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Notes2&amp;diff=94270</id>
		<title>Talk:Notes2</title>
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		<updated>2008-10-01T22:14:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Hfinger: spelling fix&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;= General =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hope you did read Caolans blog http://blogs.linux.ie/caolan/2007/03/12/notesmarginnotes-in-sw/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Peter&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yes, I think they (the developers) did notice it, because it was mentioned very early on [[Summer_of_Code_2007#Better_.22Notes.22_functionality:_Notes2|GSOC Better Notes Functionality]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:ChristophNoack|ChristophNoack]] 00:44, 26 September 2007 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Complex Structures ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sometimes, it makes sense to attach the same note to 2 or more text-positions. Instead of 2 different notes, it really makes sense to have the same note point to the 2 positions, e.g. IF the comment points to some inconsistencies between the 2 paragraphs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 [[User:Discoleo|Discoleo]] 22:39, 16 August 2007 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When I edit some text, this is something I also thought about. During the discussion on how to set the Notes Anchors I realized how hard this is to implement and to manage for the user.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Example&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: Lets have a note at position A and a note at position B (in another section). But how to represent the note? Should we draw a Note Connector Line from position B to A (not really obvious and clear) or should we provide the a Notes Window with the same content (this is something the user does not find in the real world, because he does not write on one sheet of paper and on another one the content changes too).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Proposal&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: So my proposal would be to just &amp;quot;link&amp;quot; from one note to another note. Think about something like a hyperlink which could easily be added from the e.g. the Navigator which - even today - features creating links from objects (e.g. drag-and-drop). Okay, this may require some additional work for the user (cross-reference both notes), but provides much more flexibility for other tasks. The biggest advantage is, that it would make use of a concept that is already available in Writer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Does that fit to your needs?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:ChristophNoack|ChristophNoack]] 00:33, 26 September 2007 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The ultimate use of a note is to explain, elaborate, or oppose something that is already there on the visible part of the page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Therefore, we need to point out EXACTLY WHAT are we responding to.&lt;br /&gt;
That is precisely the role of the anchor marker.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here are some typical places where we want to react with our comments:&lt;br /&gt;
1. A SPOT in a sentence -&amp;gt; The current marker can show that.&lt;br /&gt;
2. A PART of a sentence -&amp;gt; The proposed &amp;quot;highlight text and comment&amp;quot; method will address that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But the proposed notes system cannot address the following:&lt;br /&gt;
3. Two NON-ADJACENT sentences on the page (may be on different pages)&lt;br /&gt;
4. Several paragraphs put together&lt;br /&gt;
5. An image&lt;br /&gt;
6. SEVERAL specific parts of an image (each invoking a separate comment)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The marker should be designed to take care of all such uses.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Raindrops|Raindrops]] 17:35, 7 February 2008 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Raindrops, please have a look on the answers in [http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=85814 issue 85814].&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:ChristophNoack|ChristophNoack]] 00:33, 26 September 2007 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks! When I say &amp;quot;Need to comment on two non-adjacent paragraphs&amp;quot;, the idea is to pick scattered sentences, juxtapose them to highlight a picture that was hitherto hidden; and then say something about the newly emerging picture. The idea is NOT to comment in isolation on each half.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For example: Compare two conflicting statements. Support one of the statements; or proffer a third view that differs from both. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Another example: Highlight the similarity/difference between the contents of two separate paragraphs and add more observations.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In such cases, one solution is to copy substantial part of the original text, add paragraph+page reference numbers and then add the comment. Instead, the structure of the note itself should suffice. What we need is a single note and then a two-way linkage (pages &amp;lt;--&amp;gt; note). This should work even if the text is split across pages.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My UseCase for &amp;quot;several parts of image&amp;quot; will not work if we edit in another application. I visualize something like extended tooltips or balloon text when the user hovers his mouse on different parts of the image. To edit the same, he would have to click and switch to edit window. In fact, this feature is very close to ImageMap Editor. The only difference is that instead of a URL, I want plenty of Rich Text attached to parts of the image (or hotspots). Also see [http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=61093 Issue 61093]on how to let Imagemap hotspots jump to local targets within the document.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I Googled for a sample, and found this close enough: http://flickr.com/photos/samhirst6359/435258989/in/pool-abandonedbuildingart&lt;br /&gt;
Just imagine that there are plenty of hotspots in the image.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Raindrops|Raindrops]] 18:43, 13 February 2008 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Note Categories ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Tags ===&lt;br /&gt;
I would like to be able to tag the notes: each note will have a category, so that notes in the same category are grouped together, e.g. &amp;#039;ToDO&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;ERRORS&amp;#039;, ...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This makes conceptual reviewing more easier.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Hierarchical View ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This borrows some concepts from the &amp;#039;FreeMind&amp;#039; mind mapping software.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It makes sense in a more complex document to organize hierarchically the notes for easier tracking of changes and inconsistencies. The &amp;#039;Note Tags&amp;#039; discussed in the previous paragraph are another useful feature with the same purpose.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 [[User:Discoleo|Discoleo]] 22:39, 16 August 2007 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for your proposals. I hope it is okay if I will describe you demands a bit more abstract and say that &amp;quot;the user wishes to define criteria to sort and filter the notes&amp;quot;. Tagging and a hierarchical view could be powerful implementations for solving this user requirement. Maybe we have to start with little less complex implementations to serve even those users, who are not too familiar with those concepts - I would like to have a balance of &amp;quot;just works&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;serves even professional writers&amp;quot;. Let me introduce some of our ideas to you how to achieve that: &lt;br /&gt;
# Make notes searchable: the user would be able to find &amp;quot;keywords he can define for himself. Although this is manual work for the author, the effort for implementing this seems manageable. And, it would be &amp;quot;compatible&amp;quot; with the export of data in e.g. the Microsoft Word format.&lt;br /&gt;
# Filter notes (idea): I&amp;#039;m sure that many people will rate the importance of comments by e.g. their author (the boss, the expert). Therefore it would be desirable to filter notes according to their author. A general filter functionality would this make possible. The advantage is, that the information is already present in the Notes Property Data and does not require further user interaction like tagging.&lt;br /&gt;
# Prioritize notes or set a work status (idea): This very close to your ideas. The user could prioritize notes by assigning e.g. the information &amp;quot;important&amp;quot; to them; or use a kind of work status (e.g. &amp;quot;idea&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;todo&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;completed&amp;quot;). As far as I understand, the difference to your proposals is, that I would prefer to provide a set of pre-defined tags and a flat structure. Then, the filter function could be used to find notes both &amp;quot;important&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;todo&amp;quot; without necessity of real hierarchy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
More information on that is available at [[Notes2_OtherIdeas|Other Ideas]] filed under &amp;quot;Status Icons&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Task Management&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Sort and Filter Notes&amp;quot;. I think, that this order fits to the strongest needs of users and - simultaneously - is not too complex. What do you think?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:ChristophNoack|ChristophNoack]] 00:16, 26 September 2007 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Specific Issues =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Print ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
First of all, thank you Maximilian that you are going to take on to solve this important issue in OpenOffice.  Frequently, I have to review articles changed and commented by other people in a document. This is actually the only reason, why I have to switch (sometimes) to WORD. &lt;br /&gt;
And here my point: Quite often I print out the document (including all comments etc.) in order to incorporate the suggestions made. Hence, I would be very happy having the possibility to print out the document nicely including all comments. &lt;br /&gt;
Thank you&lt;br /&gt;
Gerald&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for your input, we are fully aware that the area of printing needs some rework. Hopefully, this can be done for the 3.0 version of OpenOffice.org&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I would also like to see the option to either view/print the Notes in the right margin as proposed, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;or&amp;#039;&amp;#039; embedded in-line in the text at the anchor point and visually distinguished from the underlying text -- perhaps with square brackets, background shading, underlining, or some other way. -- --[[User:Hfinger|Hfinger]] 00:13, 2 October 2008 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Introduction date? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I actually hoped for some of the imporoved Notes code to be released by 2.4 and then fixed/improved on by 2.4.x, as I had huge hopes for better Notes in 2.4. -[[User:Martg|martg]] 15:05, 16 November 2007 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Notes2&amp;diff=94269</id>
		<title>Talk:Notes2</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Notes2&amp;diff=94269"/>
		<updated>2008-10-01T22:13:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Hfinger: Print and view embedded Notes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;= General =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hope you did read Caolans blog http://blogs.linux.ie/caolan/2007/03/12/notesmarginnotes-in-sw/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Peter&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yes, I think they (the developers) did notice it, because it was mentioned very early on [[Summer_of_Code_2007#Better_.22Notes.22_functionality:_Notes2|GSOC Better Notes Functionality]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:ChristophNoack|ChristophNoack]] 00:44, 26 September 2007 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Complex Structures ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Sometimes, it makes sense to attach the same note to 2 or more text-positions. Instead of 2 different notes, it really makes sense to have the same note point to the 2 positions, e.g. IF the comment points to some inconsistencies between the 2 paragraphs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 [[User:Discoleo|Discoleo]] 22:39, 16 August 2007 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When I edit some text, this is something I also thought about. During the discussion on how to set the Notes Anchors I realized how hard this is to implement and to manage for the user.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Example&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: Lets have a note at position A and a note at position B (in another section). But how to represent the note? Should we draw a Note Connector Line from position B to A (not really obvious and clear) or should we provide the a Notes Window with the same content (this is something the user does not find in the real world, because he does not write on one sheet of paper and on another one the content changes too).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Proposal&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: So my proposal would be to just &amp;quot;link&amp;quot; from one note to another note. Think about something like a hyperlink which could easily be added from the e.g. the Navigator which - even today - features creating links from objects (e.g. drag-and-drop). Okay, this may require some additional work for the user (cross-reference both notes), but provides much more flexibility for other tasks. The biggest advantage is, that it would make use of a concept that is already available in Writer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Does that fit to your needs?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:ChristophNoack|ChristophNoack]] 00:33, 26 September 2007 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The ultimate use of a note is to explain, elaborate, or oppose something that is already there on the visible part of the page.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Therefore, we need to point out EXACTLY WHAT are we responding to.&lt;br /&gt;
That is precisely the role of the anchor marker.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here are some typical places where we want to react with our comments:&lt;br /&gt;
1. A SPOT in a sentence -&amp;gt; The current marker can show that.&lt;br /&gt;
2. A PART of a sentence -&amp;gt; The proposed &amp;quot;highlight text and comment&amp;quot; method will address that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But the proposed notes system cannot address the following:&lt;br /&gt;
3. Two NON-ADJACENT sentences on the page (may be on different pages)&lt;br /&gt;
4. Several paragraphs put together&lt;br /&gt;
5. An image&lt;br /&gt;
6. SEVERAL specific parts of an image (each invoking a separate comment)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The marker should be designed to take care of all such uses.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Raindrops|Raindrops]] 17:35, 7 February 2008 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Raindrops, please have a look on the answers in [http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=85814 issue 85814].&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:ChristophNoack|ChristophNoack]] 00:33, 26 September 2007 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks! When I say &amp;quot;Need to comment on two non-adjacent paragraphs&amp;quot;, the idea is to pick scattered sentences, juxtapose them to highlight a picture that was hitherto hidden; and then say something about the newly emerging picture. The idea is NOT to comment in isolation on each half.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For example: Compare two conflicting statements. Support one of the statements; or proffer a third view that differs from both. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Another example: Highlight the similarity/difference between the contents of two separate paragraphs and add more observations.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In such cases, one solution is to copy substantial part of the original text, add paragraph+page reference numbers and then add the comment. Instead, the structure of the note itself should suffice. What we need is a single note and then a two-way linkage (pages &amp;lt;--&amp;gt; note). This should work even if the text is split across pages.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My UseCase for &amp;quot;several parts of image&amp;quot; will not work if we edit in another application. I visualize something like extended tooltips or balloon text when the user hovers his mouse on different parts of the image. To edit the same, he would have to click and switch to edit window. In fact, this feature is very close to ImageMap Editor. The only difference is that instead of a URL, I want plenty of Rich Text attached to parts of the image (or hotspots). Also see [http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=61093 Issue 61093]on how to let Imagemap hotspots jump to local targets within the document.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I Googled for a sample, and found this close enough: http://flickr.com/photos/samhirst6359/435258989/in/pool-abandonedbuildingart&lt;br /&gt;
Just imagine that there are plenty of hotspots in the image.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Raindrops|Raindrops]] 18:43, 13 February 2008 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Note Categories ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Tags ===&lt;br /&gt;
I would like to be able to tag the notes: each note will have a category, so that notes in the same category are grouped together, e.g. &amp;#039;ToDO&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;ERRORS&amp;#039;, ...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This makes conceptual reviewing more easier.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Hierarchical View ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This borrows some concepts from the &amp;#039;FreeMind&amp;#039; mind mapping software.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It makes sense in a more complex document to organize hierarchically the notes for easier tracking of changes and inconsistencies. The &amp;#039;Note Tags&amp;#039; discussed in the previous paragraph are another useful feature with the same purpose.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 [[User:Discoleo|Discoleo]] 22:39, 16 August 2007 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for your proposals. I hope it is okay if I will describe you demands a bit more abstract and say that &amp;quot;the user wishes to define criteria to sort and filter the notes&amp;quot;. Tagging and a hierarchical view could be powerful implementations for solving this user requirement. Maybe we have to start with little less complex implementations to serve even those users, who are not too familiar with those concepts - I would like to have a balance of &amp;quot;just works&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;serves even professional writers&amp;quot;. Let me introduce some of our ideas to you how to achieve that: &lt;br /&gt;
# Make notes searchable: the user would be able to find &amp;quot;keywords he can define for himself. Although this is manual work for the author, the effort for implementing this seems manageable. And, it would be &amp;quot;compatible&amp;quot; with the export of data in e.g. the Microsoft Word format.&lt;br /&gt;
# Filter notes (idea): I&amp;#039;m sure that many people will rate the importance of comments by e.g. their author (the boss, the expert). Therefore it would be desirable to filter notes according to their author. A general filter functionality would this make possible. The advantage is, that the information is already present in the Notes Property Data and does not require further user interaction like tagging.&lt;br /&gt;
# Prioritize notes or set a work status (idea): This very close to your ideas. The user could prioritize notes by assigning e.g. the information &amp;quot;important&amp;quot; to them; or use a kind of work status (e.g. &amp;quot;idea&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;todo&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;completed&amp;quot;). As far as I understand, the difference to your proposals is, that I would prefer to provide a set of pre-defined tags and a flat structure. Then, the filter function could be used to find notes both &amp;quot;important&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;todo&amp;quot; without necessity of real hierarchy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
More information on that is available at [[Notes2_OtherIdeas|Other Ideas]] filed under &amp;quot;Status Icons&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Task Management&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Sort and Filter Notes&amp;quot;. I think, that this order fits to the strongest needs of users and - simultaneously - is not too complex. What do you think?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:ChristophNoack|ChristophNoack]] 00:16, 26 September 2007 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Specific Issues =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Print ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
First of all, thank you Maximilian that you are going to take on to solve this important issue in OpenOffice.  Frequently, I have to review articles changed and commented by other people in a document. This is actually the only reason, why I have to switch (sometimes) to WORD. &lt;br /&gt;
And here my point: Quite often I print out the document (including all comments etc.) in order to incorporate the suggestions made. Hence, I would be very happy having the possibility to print out the document nicely including all comments. &lt;br /&gt;
Thank you&lt;br /&gt;
Gerald&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for your input, we are fully aware that the area of printing needs some rework. Hopefully, this can be done for the 3.0 version of OpenOffice.org&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I would also like to see the option to either view/print the Notes in the right margin as proposed, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;or&amp;#039;&amp;#039; embedded in-line in the text at the anchor point and visually distinguished from the underlying text -- perhaps with square brackets, bacground shading, underlining, or some other way. -- --[[User:Hfinger|Hfinger]] 00:13, 2 October 2008 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Introduction date? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I actually hoped for some of the imporoved Notes code to be released by 2.4 and then fixed/improved on by 2.4.x, as I had huge hopes for better Notes in 2.4. -[[User:Martg|martg]] 15:05, 16 November 2007 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Hfinger</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Notes2_Design_Printing&amp;diff=94268</id>
		<title>Talk:Notes2 Design Printing</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Notes2_Design_Printing&amp;diff=94268"/>
		<updated>2008-10-01T22:04:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Hfinger: Suggestions for ways of dealing with Notes that exceed the depth of the page&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;With respect to Cases:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
** The Notes are spread across several printed pages until all Notes have been printed.&lt;br /&gt;
** Add the information on the current Note page number (refer to &amp;quot;design decisions&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
** Each Notes page will contain the current scaled down Writer page.&lt;br /&gt;
** For all Notes pages of the current Writer page: If there are remaining Notes on the next pages, then add a placeholder at the bottom of the Notes Side Pane (similar to the scroll buttons). Draw all Notes Connector Lines of the remaining Notes to the place holder.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A better idea would be to space out the paragraphs and lines in the main text to which the Notes refer, and spread a single document page over several pages of document + Notes.&lt;br /&gt;
Or reproportion the origanal text and Notes:  text would be narrower and Notes wider, so that the depth of text and Notes tracks.&lt;br /&gt;
Or, offer the user the alternative of printing the Notes in-line, that is, embedded in the text with some kind of visual demarcation.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Hfinger</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Notes2&amp;diff=94267</id>
		<title>Notes2</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Notes2&amp;diff=94267"/>
		<updated>2008-10-01T21:54:41Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Hfinger: Added RFE 94514 to other RFEs&lt;/p&gt;
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* What will it finally look like? Go to [[#Mockups_and_Screenshots|Mockups and Screenshots]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Want a test drive? Tough users try the [[#Development_Releases|Development Releases]]!&lt;br /&gt;
* You love detailed specifications? Look at [[#Status_and_Proposals|Status and Proposals]].&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Introduction==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:team_notes.png|center]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Notes2 addresses the revision of the notes functionality in OpenOffice.org Writer to improve its usability and accessibility. Main goal is to resolve the main issues of the current implementation, which are reported by users. Furthermore, the notes implementation should at least provide the functionality of the competitors in the same class. In long term considerations, it is intended to consistently implement the notes functionality in the other OpenOffice.org modules. The main target audience is the Small-Business-User.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Notes2 is a project which has been started as one accepted project in Google&amp;#039;s [[Summer_of_Code_2007|Summer of Code 2007]] (GSOC).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The team working on the feature (in alphabetical order): &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;prettytable&amp;quot; border=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
! Name&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
! OOo Nickname&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
! Role&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
| Mathias Bauer&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
| mba&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
| Development&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
| Uwe Fischer&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
| ufi&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
| Documentation&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
| Christian Jansen&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
| cj&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
| User Experience&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
| Christoph Noack&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
| christophnoack&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
| User Experience&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
| Maximilian Odendahl&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
| mod&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
| Development&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
| Éric Savary&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
| es&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
| QA&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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Please note that the information in this Wiki is work in progress and may change.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Requirements==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Scope of the Work===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Provide direct and easy editing of notes to get rid of the old notes editing window.&lt;br /&gt;
* Establish good accessibility for disabled users by providing keyboard shortcuts or using appropriate colors.&lt;br /&gt;
* Integrate the new functions in the existing functionality, e.g. the OpenOffice.org Navigator.&lt;br /&gt;
* Respect the needs for advanced text editing, e.g. spell checking, rich-text formatting or sorting/filtering of notes.&lt;br /&gt;
* Create both fresh and usable visual design of the notes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Issues and Requests for Enhancements ===&lt;br /&gt;
The work will address the issues and request for enhancements: &lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=767 767], [http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1981 1981], [http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4964 4964], [http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5487 5487], [http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=6193 6193], [http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=9776 9776], [http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=23465 23465], [http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=32232 32232], [http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=45788 45788], [http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=48150 48150], [http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62625 62625], [http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=63759 63759], [http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=74157 74157], [http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=61644 61644], [http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=80135 80135], and [http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=94514 94514].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You can use a [http://www.openoffice.org/issues/buglist.cgi?Submit+query=Submit+query&amp;amp;issue_type=DEFECT&amp;amp;issue_type=ENHANCEMENT&amp;amp;issue_type=FEATURE&amp;amp;issue_type=PATCH&amp;amp;issue_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;amp;issue_status=NEW&amp;amp;issue_status=STARTED&amp;amp;issue_status=REOPENED&amp;amp;issue_status=RESOLVED&amp;amp;email1=&amp;amp;emailtype1=exact&amp;amp;emailassigned_to1=1&amp;amp;email2=&amp;amp;emailtype2=exact&amp;amp;emailreporter2=1&amp;amp;issueidtype=include&amp;amp;issue_id=767%2C+1981%2C+4964%2C+5487%2C+6193%2C+9776%2C+23465%2C+32232%2C+45788%2C+48150%2C+62625%2C+63759%2C+74157%2C+61644%2C+80135&amp;amp;changedin=&amp;amp;votes=&amp;amp;chfieldfrom=&amp;amp;chfieldto=&amp;amp;chfieldvalue=&amp;amp;short_desc=&amp;amp;short_desc_type=allwords&amp;amp;long_desc=&amp;amp;long_desc_type=allwords&amp;amp;issue_file_loc=&amp;amp;issue_file_loc_type=fulltext&amp;amp;status_whiteboard=&amp;amp;status_whiteboard_type=fulltext&amp;amp;keywords=&amp;amp;keywords_type=anytokens&amp;amp;field0-0-0=noop&amp;amp;type0-0-0=noop&amp;amp;value0-0-0=&amp;amp;cmdtype=doit&amp;amp;namedcmd=accessibility&amp;amp;newqueryname=&amp;amp;order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time   Issue Tracker query] to see all issues.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Competitive Analysis ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Competitor software is discussed on the separate page [[Notes2_CompetitiveAnalysis|Competitive Analysis for Notes]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Requirements Derived from Use Cases === &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
More detailed requirements have been collected and are published at [[Notes2_RequirementsFromUseCases|Requirements from Use Cases]] (partly German).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Definition of Terms===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The following list contains some definitions used in the subsequent text (in alphabetical order):&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;prettytable&amp;quot; border=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
! Term&lt;br /&gt;
! Description&lt;br /&gt;
! Shown in Graphic Below&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Author&lt;br /&gt;
|The user who edits or edited the Document.&lt;br /&gt;
|no&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Document&lt;br /&gt;
|The Document is the file which contains the user&amp;#039;s data. The type of the Document is dependent on the OpenOffice.org module used for editing, e.g. Writer text document, Calc spreadsheet document, Impress presentation document, Draw drawing document.&lt;br /&gt;
|no&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Document Content&lt;br /&gt;
|The document content is dependent on the type of the Document. It includes e.g. &lt;br /&gt;
*characters, strings, words, sentences, paragraphs &lt;br /&gt;
*Sections (Writer) &lt;br /&gt;
*Cells (Calc) &lt;br /&gt;
*Slides (Impress) &lt;br /&gt;
*Graphic Objects (Impress, Draw) &lt;br /&gt;
* Input Fields (Base)&lt;br /&gt;
|no&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Document, Current&lt;br /&gt;
|The Current Document is the Document that the user uses at the moment.&lt;br /&gt;
|no&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Note&lt;br /&gt;
|The Note refers to all elements and data which belong to the Notes Functionality (e.g. Note Anchor, Note Window, Note Property Data, Note Connector Line). Simplified, the Note contains all user visible elements.&lt;br /&gt;
|no&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Note Anchor&lt;br /&gt;
|General name for the reference position of the Note Data which is located in the Document Content. For improved clearness, the Notes Data is not displayed inside the Document. Consequently, an Anchor is necessary to indicate the reference position.&lt;br /&gt;
|no&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Note Anchor Area&lt;br /&gt;
|A special version of the Anchor which refers to a group of Document Content elements. The Anchor Area It is defined by a starting point and a end point according to the reading direction of the Document.&lt;br /&gt;
|yes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Note Anchor Point&lt;br /&gt;
|A special version of the Anchor which refers to a position inside the Document. The Anchor Point may be located between characters and therefore treated as character.&lt;br /&gt;
|yes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Note Connector Line&lt;br /&gt;
|The notes connector line is the graphical representation of the relationship between Notes Anchor and Notes Window.&lt;br /&gt;
|yes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Note Data&lt;br /&gt;
|General name for the data which is stored for the Notes, e.g. Note User Data or Note Property Data.&lt;br /&gt;
|no&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Note Functionality&lt;br /&gt;
|The generic term which refers to the revised implementation of Notes handling in OpenOffice.org&lt;br /&gt;
|no&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Note Property Data&lt;br /&gt;
|The Note Property Data refers to all the data of a note which does not belong to the Note user data. It may contain: &lt;br /&gt;
* Status of the Note Window (e.g. shown/hidden, rolled in/out, position) &lt;br /&gt;
* Rating of the User (e.g. priority, task completion, filtered/unfiltered) &lt;br /&gt;
* History (author who created the note, author of the last change, date of creation, date of last change) &lt;br /&gt;
* Relationship to other Notes (e.g. reply status)&lt;br /&gt;
|yes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Note Side Pane&lt;br /&gt;
|The screen area next to the Document which is reserved for displaying the Notes Windows.&lt;br /&gt;
|yes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Note User Data&lt;br /&gt;
|The user defined content of the Note, e.g. text, graphics.&lt;br /&gt;
|yes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Note Window&lt;br /&gt;
|The screen area which contain the Note Data. This window is usually used to view or edit the Note User Data.&lt;br /&gt;
|yes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The following picture shows some examples for the terms defined above:&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Notes2 DefinitionOfTerms.png|414px|thumb|center|Definition of Terms]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Status and Proposals ==&lt;br /&gt;
The following table lists the topics currently worked on and refers to the more &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;detailed design proposals&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;prettytable&amp;quot; border=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! Topic&lt;br /&gt;
! Description&lt;br /&gt;
! Status&lt;br /&gt;
! Detailed Design&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| General Interaction&lt;br /&gt;
| Interaction with the Notes Anchors and Note Windows inside the Writer document window.&lt;br /&gt;
| Proposal in discussion. Implementation started.&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Notes_Design_WorkingWithNotes|Working with Notes]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Notes_Design_NotePreview|Notes Preview]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Design of the Notes Side Pane&lt;br /&gt;
| The notes side pane will extend the document pages to contain the notes windows. &lt;br /&gt;
| Implementation started.&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Notes2_Design_NotesSidePane|Note Side Pane]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Design of the Notes Windows&lt;br /&gt;
| The notes window will contain the notes text and further information like the author&amp;#039;s name and time and date information.&lt;br /&gt;
| Implementation started. If necessary, the window will be extended by a scrollbar for the text.&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Notes2_Design_NoteWindow|Note Window]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Notes2_NotePropertyData|Note Property Data]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Design of the Notes Anchor&lt;br /&gt;
| The Note Anchor is the markup inside the document text to show that there is some notes information present.&lt;br /&gt;
| Proposal in discussion.&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Notes2_Design_NoteAnchor|Note Anchor]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Design of the Notes Connector Line&lt;br /&gt;
| The Notes Connector Line is the visual connection between the notes anchor and the corresponding notes window.&lt;br /&gt;
| Proposal in discussion.&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Notes2_Design_NoteConnectorLine|Note Connector Line]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Colors of the Notes Windows&lt;br /&gt;
| Colors for the Notes Windows. These colors are shared with the Writer change tracking feature.&lt;br /&gt;
| Implementation for Notes started. Implementation for the Writer change tracking feature finished.&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Notes2_Design_MainColors|Main Colors]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Distribution of the Notes Windows in the Side Pane&lt;br /&gt;
| Placement of the Notes Windows inside the Notes Side Pane (e.g. size, position).&lt;br /&gt;
| Proposal in discussion. Implementation started.&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Notes2_Design_NoteWindowDistribution|Note Window Distribution]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Menus and Keybindings&lt;br /&gt;
| Covers menu changes and keybindings (e.g. shortcut for insert notes) for the interaction with the Notes functionality.&lt;br /&gt;
| Proposal in discussion. Implementation started.&lt;br /&gt;
| n/a&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Rich-Text-Formatting&lt;br /&gt;
| Use of attributes to markup the notes text (e.g. bold text).&lt;br /&gt;
| Implementation started.&lt;br /&gt;
| n/a&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Focus Visualization&lt;br /&gt;
| The Note Windows of a currently viewed or edited Note is highlighted. &lt;br /&gt;
| Proposals in discussion. Preliminary implementation started.&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Notes2_Design_Visualization_of_Focus|Visualization of Focus]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Notes Printing&lt;br /&gt;
| Notes can be part of a document, therefore it is desired to print the Notes information. &lt;br /&gt;
| Proposals are being created.&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Notes2_Design_Printing|Notes Printing]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Roadmap ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Development Releases ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The functionality will be implemented step-by-step.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Development releases are available for testing at [[Notes2 Development Releases]]!&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Since developer milestone m248, the new Notes functionality has been continuously integrated into the main branch. Please test this functionality and provide feedback, as this helps us to improve the Notes functionality until it will be released officially. Please refer to the page [[Notes2 Development Releases]] for more information and download locations.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Information about the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;further development&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; (including CWS status, issues and links) on what is planned can be found at [[Notes2_CWS | Notes2 CWS]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Official Releases ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Functionality expected in the first release (OpenOffice.org 3.0):&lt;br /&gt;
* Viewing and editing notes next to the document page&lt;br /&gt;
* Accessibility support&lt;br /&gt;
* The functionality which is already available in current version of OpenOffice.org&lt;br /&gt;
* Improved integration with the Writer change tracking feature (e.g. use the same colors for the authors of the document)&lt;br /&gt;
* Time information for the notes (besides the already available date information)&lt;br /&gt;
* Rich-text editing (e.g. bold text, numerations)&lt;br /&gt;
* Online help&lt;br /&gt;
* Support for the OpenOffice.org [http://qa.openoffice.org/ooQAReloaded/AutomationTeamsite/ooQA-TeamAutomation.html Testtool]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For functionality expected in later releases (OpenOffice.org 3.1 and beyond), please have a look here:&lt;br /&gt;
[http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Notes2_CWS#planned_for_upcoming_CWS planned for upcoming versions]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Other Ideas===&lt;br /&gt;
Other ideas are discussed on the separate page [[Notes2_OtherIdeas|Other Ideas for Notes]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Mockups and Screenshots==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This section contains mockups and screenshots:&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Mockups&amp;#039;&amp;#039; are working models used for demonstration purposes. There is no real functionality at all, because the following pictures have been composed with graphic programs just to get a first impression how it will look like.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Screenshots&amp;#039;&amp;#039; show the behavior of the real development in OpenOffice.org Writer. Those pictures are updated more or less regularly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;prettytable&amp;quot; border=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Image:Notes2_2007-09-08_GeneralMockups_View.png|512px|thumb|center|Mockup for viewing the notes]]&lt;br /&gt;
| Mockup shows the mode for &amp;quot;viewing&amp;quot; the notes:&lt;br /&gt;
* different kinds of notes anchors in the document text:&lt;br /&gt;
** anchor point (represents a character)&lt;br /&gt;
** anchor selection&lt;br /&gt;
* a side pane next to the document page for displaying and arranging the notes windows (including some information in the ruler above)&lt;br /&gt;
* display of author and date inside the notes windows&lt;br /&gt;
* different colors for different authors&lt;br /&gt;
* (idea) a placeholder to just start typing the notes text (anchor would be placed at current document text position)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Image:Notes2_2007-09-08_GeneralMockups_Edit.png|512px|thumb|center|Mockup for editing the notes]]&lt;br /&gt;
| Mockup shows the mode for &amp;quot;editing&amp;quot; the notes:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* visualization of currently edited note&lt;br /&gt;
** continuous anchor connector line&lt;br /&gt;
** highlighted notes anchor selection (slightly darker border lines)&lt;br /&gt;
** shadow for the notes window (whereas the shadow for the document page is removed)&lt;br /&gt;
* spell checking inside the notes windows&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Image:Notes2_2007-09-08_GeneralMockups_HiddenNotesPane.png|512px|thumb|center|Mockup for a hidden notes pane]]&lt;br /&gt;
| Mockup shows the mode for a &amp;quot;hidden notes&amp;quot; pane (just an early idea):&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* notes pane is completely hidden (including notes windows)&lt;br /&gt;
* the ruler above provides some information on the notes&lt;br /&gt;
** information that there are (at least) some notes present in the document&lt;br /&gt;
** the notes pane can be shown by the control element in the ruler bar&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Image:writer_prototype001.png|512px|thumb|center|Alpha version Writer]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Press Coverage==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This section lists some of the noteworthy blog posts, web news or press coverage for the new Notes2 feature.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* The german linux magazine presents the new notes feature (along with the zoom slider and the multi-page view) in a short video (German): [http://www.linux-magazin.de/news/video_neues_in_open_office_writer_3_0 Linux-Magazin Online (Video: Neues in Open Office Writer 3.0)] (2008-09-26)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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